Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-31 Thread Dave Crocker
J D Falk wrote: > We should not let forward progress be halted by the possibility that > someone might establish an entirely-internal-to-them policy that some of > us might disagree with. s/might/will/ ... d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net ___

Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-31 Thread J D Falk
Eliot Lear wrote: > Jeff Macdonald wrote: >> The only thing that worries me is someone will tie their reputation >> system to the identity instead of the identifier. There is lots of >> advice for a company (an identity) to put different types of mail >> streams on different IPs. So logically one

Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-29 Thread Eliot Lear
Jeff Macdonald wrote: > The only thing that worries me is someone will tie their reputation > system to the identity instead of the identifier. There is lots of > advice for a company (an identity) to put different types of mail > streams on different IPs. So logically one would use different DKIM

Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-28 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Thu, 2008-03-27 at 17:35 +, Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Dave Crocker wrote: > > Stephen, > > > > I fear that this is a real matter of technical confusion -- not just > > literary taste -- and that the source of confusion is common to the > > topic and not just how the document is written

Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-27 Thread Dave Crocker
Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > Dave Crocker wrote: >> Stephen, >> >> I fear that this is a real matter of technical confusion -- not just >> literary taste -- and that the source of confusion is common to the >> topic and not just how the document is written. >> >> That's not to say that the wr

Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-27 Thread Stephen Farrell
Dave Crocker wrote: > Stephen, > > I fear that this is a real matter of technical confusion -- not just > literary taste -- and that the source of confusion is common to the > topic and not just how the document is written. > > That's not to say that the writing might not be contributing to t

Re: [ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-26 Thread Dave Crocker
Stephen, I fear that this is a real matter of technical confusion -- not just literary taste -- and that the source of confusion is common to the topic and not just how the document is written. That's not to say that the writing might not be contributing to the confusion. So let's see if we ca

[ietf-dkim] New Issue: The term identity in the overview

2008-03-26 Thread Stephen Farrell
(As a participant only again) The use of the term "identity" throughout is somewhat confusing. I don't have a simple change to suggest. As an example, the start of section 2 says: "Given the presence of that identifier, a receiver can make decisions about further handling of the message, based u