Re: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-05 Thread Barry Leiba
That's not what RFC5617 says.    Meaning:  No valid Author Domain Signature was found on the message              and the published ADSP was unknown. Can't that be read as meaning a non-Author Domain Signature was not expected. No, not at all. I can't think of any interpretation of that

Re: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-05 Thread Hector Santos
Barry Leiba wrote: That's not what RFC5617 says. � �Meaning: �No valid Author Domain Signature was found on the message � � � � � � �and the published ADSP was unknown. Can't that be read as meaning a non-Author Domain Signature was not expected? No, not at all. I can't think of any

Re: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-04 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 03.05.2011 15:28, Hector Santos wrote: Authentication-Results: dkim.winserver.com; dkim=pass header.i=mipassoc.org header.d=mipassoc.org header.s=k1; adsp=fail policy=unknown author.d=tana.it signer.d=mipassoc.org (unauthorized signer); The (unauthorized signer) was added

Re: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-04 Thread Hector Santos
Alessandro Vesely wrote: The (unauthorized signer) was added because it was an explicit DKIM=UKKNOWN DNS record declaration. If there was no ADSP record, the adsp= info would look like this: adsp=none author.d=tana.it signer.d=mipassoc.org; Would that be a reasonable valid A-R

Re: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-04 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On 04.05.2011 14:56, Hector Santos wrote: Alessandro Vesely wrote: The only difference between setting unsigned and letting it be derived by default should be the ability to control the expiration of such value. Can you rephrase this so I can better understand your thinking? ATPS wasn't

[ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-03 Thread Hector Santos
RFC5617 has for this tag value: dkim= Outbound Signing Practices for the domain (plain-text; REQUIRED). Possible values are as follows: unknown The domain might sign some or all email. For my A-R reporting if there an explicit DKIM=UNKNOWN record, I took this

Re: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-03 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
-Original Message- From: ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org [mailto:ietf-dkim-boun...@mipassoc.org] On Behalf Of Hector Santos Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 6:29 AM To: ietf-dkim@mipassoc.org Subject: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting RFC5617 has for this tag

Re: [ietf-dkim] Question: ADSP DKIM=UNKNOWN and A-R reporting

2011-05-03 Thread Hector Santos
Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: For my A-R reporting if there an explicit DKIM=UNKNOWN record, I took this declaration to mean the domain only allows it to sign sometimes and no one else. That's not what RFC5617 says. Meaning: No valid Author Domain Signature was found on the message