Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-11 Thread Stephen Farrell
Doug, That's better, since it uses requirements language, but unfortunately still not understandable (for me at any rate). Douglas Otis wrote: Rephrased: The policy should be able to indicate: - What signing domains are authoritative for the First Party Address. (The policy specifies whi

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-10 Thread Douglas Otis
On Aug 10, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote: Douglas Otis wrote: Actually "Signing Complete" should be as explicit assertion, whereas "Not Signing Complete" should be a default ... That's a nice example of a design discussion. We're on requirements now. Rephrased: The policy sho

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-10 Thread Stephen Farrell
Doug, Douglas Otis wrote: Actually "Signing Complete" should be as explicit assertion, whereas "Not Signing Complete" should be a default ... That's a nice example of a design discussion. We're on requirements now. Stephen. ___ NOTE WELL: This list

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-10 Thread Douglas Otis
On Aug 9, 2006, at 7:51 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Wednesday 09 August 2006 22:30, Tony Hansen wrote: Stephen Farrell wrote: Michael Thomas wrote: Tony Hansen wrote: add RFC2822.Sender I'm not the chair, but I've seen considerably less consensus about anything other than rfc2822.from

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-09 Thread Mark Delany
On Wed, Aug 09, 2006 at 10:30:21PM -0400, Tony Hansen allegedly wrote: > Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > > Michael Thomas wrote: > >> Tony Hansen wrote: > >>> add RFC2822.Sender > >>> > >> I'm not the chair, but I've seen considerably less consensus about > >> anything other than rfc2822.from. I'm

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-09 Thread Hector Santos
ware, Inc. http://www.santronics.com - Original Message - From: "Tony Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "DKIM List" Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender > Stephen Farrell wrote: > > > > Michael Thomas

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 09 August 2006 22:30, Tony Hansen wrote: > Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Michael Thomas wrote: > >> Tony Hansen wrote: > >>> add RFC2822.Sender > >> > >> I'm not the chair, but I've seen considerably less consensus about > >> anything other than rfc2822.from. I'm frankly not sure I unders

Identity selection related requirements (Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender)

2006-08-09 Thread william(at)elan.net
That this thread is being discussed brings up a requirement that policy record syntax should be capable of supporting multiple identities. A subquestion of that is if policy record identity should or should not be part of the query selection process (i.e. _from._policy if DNS). That BTW brings

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-09 Thread Tony Hansen
Stephen Farrell wrote: > > Michael Thomas wrote: >> Tony Hansen wrote: >>> add RFC2822.Sender >>> >> I'm not the chair, but I've seen considerably less consensus about >> anything other than rfc2822.from. I'm frankly not sure I understand >> it very well. > > I know I don't understand it! > >

Re: [ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-09 Thread Stephen Farrell
Michael Thomas wrote: Tony Hansen wrote: add RFC2822.Sender I'm not the chair, but I've seen considerably less consensus about anything other than rfc2822.from. I'm frankly not sure I understand it very well. I know I don't understand it! Maybe a more detailed use-case would help? (Tony?

[ietf-dkim] RFC2822.Sender

2006-08-09 Thread Michael Thomas
Tony Hansen wrote: Damon wrote: --- 350,357 previous scenario. A receiver, on the other hand, may be able to take advantage of the knowledge the domain's practice of signing all mail in order to use it to bias filters against the unexpected !arrival of a piece of unsigned,