Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-25 Thread Douglas Otis
On Feb 25, 2008, at 3:35 PM, Jim Fenton wrote: > Doug, > > Much as I appreciate your personal appeal, it's really the rough > consensus of the working group, and not my opinion, that matters. Jim, Thank you for your feedback. Of course consensus matters, but so does compatibility with RFC 48

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-25 Thread Jim Fenton
Doug, Much as I appreciate your personal appeal, it's really the rough consensus of the working group, and not my opinion, that matters. If I understand correctly, the difference between the approach you favor and the one that I favor is as follows: Approach A (favored by Doug): Check the g= t

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-22 Thread Douglas Otis
Jim As the cut-off approaches, this is an appeal for you to reconsider where agreement might be found. Risks associated with the use of g= restricted keys signing messages where i= identities are not found within the From header exists whether policy is asserted or not. A g= restricted key

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-21 Thread Douglas Otis
On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Jim Fenton wrote: > Jeff Macdonald wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 03:04:08AM -0800, Douglas Otis wrote: >> >>> Expanding upon the effect of the SSP-02 Author Signature >>> definition based upon a conversation with Jim... >>> >>> Jim suggested that to comply with

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-20 Thread Jim Fenton
Jeff Macdonald wrote: > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 03:04:08AM -0800, Douglas Otis wrote: > >> Expanding upon the effect of the SSP-02 Author Signature definition >> based upon a conversation with Jim... >> >> Jim suggested that to comply with SSP-02, signatures will not make use >> of the i= pa

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-20 Thread Jeff Macdonald
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 03:04:08AM -0800, Douglas Otis wrote: >Expanding upon the effect of the SSP-02 Author Signature definition >based upon a conversation with Jim... > >Jim suggested that to comply with SSP-02, signatures will not make use >of the i= parameter, since the i= parameter is nee

Re: [ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-19 Thread Douglas Otis
Expanding upon the effect of the SSP-02 Author Signature definition based upon a conversation with Jim... Jim suggested that to comply with SSP-02, signatures will not make use of the i= parameter, since the i= parameter is needed only for g= restricted keys. Instead of a practice that offe

[ietf-dkim] SSP-02 the problem with Author Signature

2008-02-18 Thread Douglas Otis
Per RFC 4871: The signature's i= parameter is "expected" to contain on-behalf-of information: i= Identity of the user or agent (e.g., a mailing list manager) on behalf of which this message is signed... ... INFORMATIVE DISCUSSION: This document does not require the value of the "i=" t