Re: [Ifeffit] lifetime broadening of pre-edge peaks?

2011-10-10 Thread Iztok Arčon
Dear Matthew you can find examples of determination of life-time broadening, deconvolution of XANES specra, and discussion about limitations due to noise in several papers, for example: A. Filipponi, J. Phys. B 33, 2835 (2000) * A. Kodre, I. Arčon, J. Padeznik Gomilšek, R. Frahm*// J. Phys.

[Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread George Sterbinsky
Hello, Since I haven't received a response to my previous question, I just wanted to make sure I asked it clearly. To elaborate, I am attaching a log from Athena. The log file lists: Independent points = 27.057617188 If I attempt to reproduce this result using the equation in the

Re: [Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread George Sterbinsky
Sorry, the log file is from Artemis, not Athena... On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:35 AM, George Sterbinsky georgesterbin...@u.northwestern.edu wrote: Hello, Since I haven't received a response to my previous question, I just wanted to make sure I asked it clearly. To elaborate, I am attaching a

Re: [Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread Kropf, Arthur Jeremy
Try it again with dk and dR extending the range. Perhaps there is a more subtle analysis of the data range, but I doubt it, since Matt is on record as suggesting that people not place too much emphasis on the exact value of N-idp, if I recall correctly. You can scale your chi-square,

Re: [Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread Bruce Ravel
On Monday, October 10, 2011 10:48:25 am Kropf, Arthur Jeremy wrote: Perhaps there is a more subtle analysis of the data range, but I doubt it, since Matt is on record as suggesting that people not place too much emphasis on the exact value of N-idp, if I recall correctly. You can scale your

Re: [Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread Matt Newville
Hi George. It should be 2*(Delta k)*(Delta R), without the +2, but as a floating point number. That is, it is deliberately conservative. I believe the subtle difference you see (that is why the value is 27.06 instead of 27.5) must be due to rounding of the R values on to a discrete grid.

Re: [Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread Matt Newville
Of course. I do agree with both Jeremy and Bruce. -Matt On Oct 10, 2011 10:07 AM, Bruce Ravel bra...@bnl.gov wrote: On Monday, October 10, 2011 10:48:25 am Kropf, Arthur Jeremy wrote: Perhaps there is a more subtle analysis of the data range, but I doubt it, since Matt is on record as

Re: [Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread Bruce Ravel
On Monday, October 10, 2011 10:35:12 am George Sterbinsky wrote: Since I haven't received a response to my previous question, I just wanted to make sure I asked it clearly. I suspect the lack of response had more to do with it being a non-trivial question asked on a Friday afternoon :) To

Re: [Ifeffit] number of independent points

2011-10-10 Thread George Sterbinsky
Bruce, Matt, and Jeremy, Thank you for explaining this. Your responses are much appreciated. George On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:35 AM, Bruce Ravel bra...@bnl.gov wrote: On Monday, October 10, 2011 10:35:12 am George Sterbinsky wrote: Since I haven't received a response to my previous

Re: [Ifeffit] lifetime broadening of pre-edge peaks?

2011-10-10 Thread Matthew Marcus
Thanks. While none of these have to do with pre-edge peaks such as are found in transition-metal oxides, the assumption of constancy of core-hole broadening does seem to work. mam - Original Message - From: Iztok Arčon To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Sent: Monday, October

Re: [Ifeffit] lifetime broadening of pre-edge peaks?

2011-10-10 Thread Anatoly I Frenkel
I think experimental answer could be the simplest one. Perhaps there is anyone on the list who measured low concentrations of low Z absorber in the high Z host at both edges? For example, Cu in Ag (if does dissolve in Ag if made by rapid quenching) at Cu K-edge, and Ag K-edge (or just bulk Ag