Re: [Ifeffit] Fit in R or k

2021-10-12 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Will: The relationship between the data in k-space and R-space is described in this tutorial: https://docs.xrayabsorption.org/tutorials/Basics_of_XAFS_to_chi_2009.pdf Take a look at what a Fourier transform does. In few words I'd say it doesn't matter which representation of the data (k-spac

Re: [Ifeffit] S02 selection from reviewer

2021-10-02 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Peng: It might be helpful to understanding some of Matt's points regarding S02 transferability, Ei and energy resolution by looking at this paper. Comparison of EXAFS foil spectra from around the world DOI: 10.1088/1742-6596/190/1/012032 Kind regards, Shelly -Original Message- Fr

[Ifeffit] Beamline Scientist position

2021-07-01 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hello XAFS community: I'm excited to let you know that we have an opening for beamline scientist within the Spectroscopy group at the Advanced Photon Source. Please help spread the word. https://bit.ly/3iN7Ehe Kind Regards, Shelly Kelly Spectroscopy Group Leader Advanced Photon Source

Re: [Ifeffit] quotation of figures

2008-07-16 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Yah know,,,I'm wrong The last one is a triple scattering path with just two scattering atoms. the leg part is right... oops SK From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kelly, Shelly D. Sent: Wed 7/16/2008 11:45 PM To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subjec

Re: [Ifeffit] quotation of figures

2008-07-16 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Eckhard, The first slide also has problems. The first path is a single scattering path. All the others are double scattering paths. The word "single", "double" and "triple" are used to describe the number of atoms that scatter. The number of legs is used to tell the difference between t

Re: [Ifeffit] quotation of figures

2008-07-16 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
I'd like to add my 2cents worth about the mean square displacement term. I wrote it up on the EXAFS wiki, since I like to say it over and over. see http://www.xafs.org/Common_Mistakes Shelly From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Scott Calvin Sent: Wed 7/16/200

Re: [Ifeffit] Athena: k-weight=3 in background removal problem

2008-07-08 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Joseph, I have a book chapter that explains how the different k-weighting affect the chi(k) data produced in the background removal. I'll send it to you directly, so as not to fill up everyone's mail box. Here is the reference for others that might be interested. Kelly, S.D., Hesterberg, D.

Re: [Ifeffit] Dodgy Edge Steps

2008-04-28 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Lachlan, The reason that you want to keep the total absorption less than 3 is because the number of transmitted x-rays becomes small. I=I0 exp(-mu x). So for mu x =3 the number of transmitted x-rays are 5% of the incident x-ray intensity. If you have a lot of x-rays then you can measur

Re: [Ifeffit] Rutile Rbkq remove question.

2008-03-15 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Pei, Another parameter that affects the curvature of the background is where you choose E0 and kmin for the spline. Sometimes if you choose a value that is far down the edge, like half the edge step height, then the background has to curve alot to get through the edge region of the spectru

Re: [Ifeffit] How to generate the input information for Atom

2007-11-06 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Fenglong, You can do the next part of the analysis in Artemis. I have a powerpoint tutorial showing the different parts of Artemis on the xafs.org wiki. http://www.xafs.org/Tutorials It is called Basics_of_XAFS_analysis.pdf It is a bit dated now, but the main points are all the same. I r

[Ifeffit] Re xanes feff8 sulfur

2007-10-15 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Eckard, I realize that you have posted a message every month for about 3 months in a row without any reply: Shame on us... I will try to answer some of your questions and maybe that will help to get some discussion going. The energy scale in feff8 is NOT defined as you would expect it to be

Re: [Ifeffit] Double picks on Near Edge region.

2007-09-12 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
SDK> Hi Pei-chang, See below for some ideas. To whom it may concern, Bottom of Form Dear Prof.;   Here have some questions about Zn doped LiNbO3 single crsystal EXAFS fitting problem, we did the similar EXAFS absorption spectra as you can see the attach reference paper Fig 7, that shows doubl

Re: [Ifeffit] Debye Waller factors for Water Molecules

2007-07-27 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Paul, I was hoping someone else would answer your question. I have an idea. It might not be a good idea. Look up the MSRD term that you get from Grant’s DFT parameterizations for the first Zn-S bond. Play around with the Einstein model for a Zn-S bond of the correct distance for t

Re: [Ifeffit] care and feeding of Athena

2007-05-09 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
> So what do you all think? Is it better to impose the somewhat > arbitrary limit that Scott suggests in hopes that it will work as > intended most of the time? Or is it better to leave things as they > are, allowing you to import more data but running the risk of > corrupting Ifeffit's memory ma

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Scott, The change in frequency is a bigger affect at high k than the energy shift parameter. The energy shift parameter affects the data more strongly at low k. So I align the data to each other at low k, and then they become out of phase with each other at high k. A similar effect is seen

Re: [Ifeffit] question about Eo and simultaneous fitting

2007-02-14 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Tony, The approach that I like to take, is to vary the choice of E0 in the background subtraction step so that the chi(k) spectra are well aligned with each other and the theory. Then only one Ezero parameter is needed. Cheers, Shelly > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [

Re: [Ifeffit] statistical vicissitudes

2007-01-19 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Aaron, In EXAFS the expected deviation in RCS(reduced chi square) is sqrt(2/nu) So one fit is better than another fit if their difference is greater than twice the fluctuation in the RCS values (RCS1-RCS2)/RCS2 > 2 sqrt(2/nu) We divide by RCS2 because our RCS-values are poorly scaled. {in yo

RE: [Ifeffit] Projekt with the "flatten-problem"

2007-01-11 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
. > > Dave > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > >Of Kelly, Shelly D. > >Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:11 AM > >To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit > >Subject: RE: [Ifeffit] Projekt with

RE: [Ifeffit] Projekt with the "flatten-problem"

2007-01-11 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Jens, I believe the problem is related to the structure in the data before E0. If you choose e0 to be at the beginning of the structure then the normalization is handled better by Athena. Take a look at the attached project file. The first data set with e0 on the edge as you would choose for

RE: [Ifeffit] Problems with the >flatten< option in Athena

2007-01-10 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Jens, You can try moving e0. E0 should be on the edge. Is E0 at the position of the step? You could also send us an example. Then we can help more directly. I'd guess that the step is caused by some background parameters that are set incorrectly. SK > -Original Message- > From:

RE: [Ifeffit] Is there a physical meaning to a negative SO2

2007-01-09 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Todd, One thing to try is to set s02 to a positive value and all the other variables to reasonable values and then look at the real or imaginary parts of the Fourier transform and also look at the chi(k) spectra. You should "see" the affect that Scott mentioned. Shelly > -Original Messa

RE: [Ifeffit] Generating Atom lists using Artemis

2007-01-08 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
--- Shelly Kelly Argonne National Laboratory Bldg 203, RM E113 > > On Saturday 06 January 2007 10:53, Kelly, Shelly D. wrote: > > Hello Artemis users, > > > > I found an interesting feature in Artemis when generating a list of > atoms > >

RE: [Ifeffit] R-factor uncertainty

2007-01-08 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Lisa, In general the R-factor is good if it is less than a few percent. The value reported is 0.01 or 1% then the fit is satisfactory. Just as a note the R-factor is calculated over the entire data range given by rmin and rmax of the fit, so make sure that they are reasonable values. To co

[Ifeffit] Generating Atom lists using Artemis

2007-01-06 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hello Artemis users, I found an interesting feature in Artemis when generating a list of atoms from the attached cif file worth sharing on the list. In the attached cif file for Pd2Si the position of the Si2 atoms are at x,y,z = 0., 0.6667, 0 with a space group of p -6 2 m. Using this cif

RE: [Ifeffit] Athena bug and a question

2006-10-18 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Silvio, There are a number of ways to reduced the big spike at low k. Sometimes just tweaking E0, kmin, kmax, and k-weight are enough. My favorite approach is to use the model as a theory in the background subtraction procedure. I talk about how to do that in this presentation file that I p

RE: [Ifeffit] Phase corrected Fourier transforms -edited!

2006-09-24 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Here is an edited version. I apologize. Shelly Hi Juan and John, Here us my 2cents worth... Unfortunately the magnitude of the FT is not as simple as a RDF. I agree with John that the ultimate goal of the analysis is to come up with a RDF. But I disagree about the worth of adding a bi

RE: [Ifeffit] Phase corrected Fourier transforms

2006-09-24 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Oh crap, I didn't mean it like that. SK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anatoly Frenkel Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 9:42 AM To: XAFS Analysis using Ifeffit Subject: RE: [Ifeffit] Phase corrected Fourier transforms In the future, I r

RE: [Ifeffit] Phase corrected Fourier transforms

2006-09-24 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Juan and John, Here us my 2cents worth... Unfortunately the magnitude of the FT is not as simple as a RDF. I agree with John that the ultimate goal of the analysis is to come up with a RDF. But I disagree about the worth of adding a bit more processing to the spectra that makes the spectr

RE: [Ifeffit] Short questions

2006-09-14 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Juan, I liked the rule. It motivated Scott to give a quick reply. And the rest of us got a smile out of it. Cheers, Shelly > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ifeffit- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juan Antonio Maciá Agulló > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006

RE: [Ifeffit] Right way of choosing E0 in Athena

2006-06-29 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Gerrit, My web page has a couple of examples that I think you will find helpful. Take a look at http://www.mesg.anl.gov/Skelly.html . The "Basics of EXAFS data analysis 2004" presentation and the tutorial on background removal for MoO3 will answer most of your questions. The alignment of meas

RE: [Ifeffit] The most important fitting parameters

2006-06-16 Thread Kelly, Shelly D.
Hi Bridget, Here are some other things to consider. 1) Is the second oxygen shell really necessary? What happens when you leave it out of the fit and remove 3 parameters? Whenever I "make-up" a structure I always take the minimalist approach. If the reduced-chi-squares for the two different m