Re: [Ifeffit] P K-edge XANES spectrum question (Mangold, Stefan (IPS))- (Mike Massey); Re: Ifeffit Digest, Vol 212, Issue 7 (Luis Carlos Colocho Hurtarte)

2020-10-16 Thread Ganga Hettiarachchi
Mike, Thanks, we will try diluted samples to make sure that this is not an issue due to concentration. Luis, Thanks for sharing those papers. We have plenty of OC in these systems, but Pb or other trace elements concentrations are very small (below 10 mg/kg). Best regards, Ganga

Re: [Ifeffit] P K-edge XANES spectrum question (Mangold, Stefan (IPS))

2020-10-16 Thread Mike Massey
Yes I was wondering about this as well. Technically P(III) exists, and maybe one could find it in an AMBR? But I don't think anyone has a clue about what the K-edge XANES spectrum looks like. Has anyone ever collected a phosphite spectrum? That would be pretty cool. I would totally do it but

Re: [Ifeffit] P K-edge XANES spectrum question (Mangold, Stefan (IPS))

2020-10-16 Thread Ganga Hettiarachchi
Stefan, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Please share if you do have spectra for any other P (i.e., not +5). Best regards, Ganga Ganga M. Hettiarachchi, Ph.D. Professor of Soil and Environmental Chemistry Department of Agronomy 2107 Throckmorton Plant Sciences Center

Re: [Ifeffit] P K-edge XANES spectrum question

2020-10-16 Thread Mangold, Stefan (IPS)
My2Cents, strange features in spectra can be also induced by mixtures of different species (especially from different oxidation states, especially at low energies) best regards Stefan Mangold Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) Am 16.10.2020 um 07:26 schrieb Ganga Hettiarachchi

Re: [Ifeffit] P K-edge XANES spectrum question

2020-10-16 Thread Mike Massey
I recommend diluting this sample by a lot (20x maybe, or more) and collecting another spectrum. I've had instances of strange features in P spectra that ended up being weird self-absorption type artifacts. I will dig through the spectra I have from similar samples, this one reminds me of a

Re: [Ifeffit] P K-edge XANES spectrum question

2020-10-16 Thread Dean Hesterberg
Hello Ganga, That is a very interesting spectrum. Given what you said about the system, the lower energy feature at ~ 2146 eV should be Fe(III)-bonded phosphate and the feature at ~2149 eV should be Al(III)-bonded phosphate. Both produce pre-white line absorption peaks, but the Al-bonded

[Ifeffit] P K-edge XANES spectrum question

2020-10-15 Thread Ganga Hettiarachchi
All, Can anyone provide some insight into the pre-edge "features" in this P XANES spectrum? This is the P XANES spectrum we got for a recovered P-product (rich in Fe and Al) from wastewater using the AnMBR technology. During the coagulation process, our collaborators (environmental engineers)