Re: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-05 Thread Bruce Ravel
On Monday, April 04, 2011 06:51:23 pm Matthew Marcus wrote: Another question is whether, if you add a sigma2 to feff.inp, what does FEFF do? Ick! As good of a question as that might be, I have to recommend against that practice in the strongest possible terms. Adding sigma^2 0 (or S0^2 1,

Re: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-05 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Matthew, On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Matthew Marcus mamar...@lbl.gov wrote: OK, so if you don't add a sigma2 to your FEFF input file, then IFEFFIT will do the correction properly. Another question is whether, if you add a sigma2 to feff.inp, what does FEFF do? mam FEFF's

Re: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-04 Thread Ping, Yuan
Thanks, Bruce. Does the math expression in IFEFFIT include the term -4k*sigma2*(1/labmda +1/R) in the phase? If yes, the 1st cumulant is sigma1= R+dR. If no, sigma1= R+dR+2*sigma2*(1/labmda +1/R). It this correct? Yuan On 4/1/11 2:18 PM, Bruce Ravel bra...@bnl.gov wrote: On Friday, April 01,

Re: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-04 Thread Matthew Marcus
: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF On Monday, April 04, 2011 05:25:39 pm Ping, Yuan wrote: Does the math expression in IFEFFIT include the term -4k*sigma2*(1/labmda +1/R) in the phase? If yes, the 1st cumulant is sigma1= R+dR. If no, sigma1= R+dR+2*sigma2*(1/labmda +1/R). It this correct? When

Re: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-04 Thread Bruce Ravel
On Monday, April 04, 2011 06:01:20 pm Ping, Yuan wrote: So the term is included? Please see the attached paper. I meant the Coj(k) in Eq. (5). The answer is yes, Matt wrote Ifeffit correctly. But I am beginning to suspect that I am will never be able to answer your question to your

Re: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-04 Thread Matthew Marcus
OK, so if you don't add a sigma2 to your FEFF input file, then IFEFFIT will do the correction properly. Another question is whether, if you add a sigma2 to feff.inp, what does FEFF do? mam On 4/4/2011 3:37 PM, Bruce Ravel wrote: On Monday, April 04, 2011 06:01:20 pm Ping, Yuan wrote:

Re: [Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-04 Thread Matt Newville
Hi Yuan, (Bruce, Matthew), Yes, the correction described by Tranquada and Ingalls is explicitly included in ifeffit's fits. There are a couple different effects going on. Short of doing actual integrals over g(R), we try to take all the effects into account. The cumulant expansion models the

[Ifeffit] Third cumulant in DWF

2011-04-01 Thread Ping, Yuan
Dear IFEFFIT experts: Is it possible to add a k^3 term in the phase for fitting to take into account anharmonic effect? The fitted coefficient will be proportional to the 3rd cumulant of Debye-Waller factor. I work with high-temperature high-pressure systems where anharmonic effect is not