Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread Raja Subramanian
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Rahul Sundaram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Girish Venkatachalam wrote: >> So the design and code of VMWare and Xen are wildly different since the >> goals though similar follow somewhat antipodal approaches. > > Not really. VMWare has a hypervisor based solution fo

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008, benjamin wrote: > in Xen, would you call Dom0 the host? You are right about the fact that even Dom0 is "only" a special domain. My statement was made from a usage perspective rather than as strict logical dependency. Regards, Kapil. -- _

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2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
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Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread benjamin
> > Usually, there _is_ a base operating system which is called the host. > > The tasks of the host are (at least): > a. To make it convenient to create and manage guests. > b. To manage hardware access for the hosts. > in Xen, would you call Dom0 the host? Dom0, a special domain (VM) too runs o

[Ilugc] One Day One GNU/Linux Command (FILE)

2008-08-20 Thread Bharathi Subramanian
One Day One GNU/Linux Command = file -- Try to determine the FILE type. Summary: File tests each argument in an attempt to classify it. There are 3 sets of tests, performed in this order: File System Test, Magic Number Test, and Language Test. File System test will

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Girish Venkatachalam wrote: Now the main difference between Xen and VMWare is this: " Xen does not emulate the underlying hardware completely. This means that OSes have to be modified to run on top of Xen hypervisor. You can never run an OS directly over Xen. Whereas VMWare does full hardwa

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread rajasekhar kuppa
>>>You can never run an OS directly over Xen. is this so in Xen 3.1 running on top of a Intel VT supported architecture? I heard that running an OS with out changing it is now possible with the above mentioned combination which is why CITRIX has bought Xen source . I might have heard wrong but

Re: [Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
> given that they have employed a million, I dont think they > worry > about species. But I think we must protest - if M$ ties up > all the > monkeys, how do we get perl code developed? > > -- > > regards > kg some of the lead "money+ keys = monkeys" were seen hopping and screaming on stag

Re: [Ilugc] Debian-Med project preferred BioPuppy Linux

2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 20-Aug-08, at 9:16 PM, Prakash Srinivasan wrote: Dear All, I gladly inform you that, BioPuppy Linux is now encouraged by one of the Debian project called Debian-Med. The Debian-Med project presents packages that are associated with medicine, pre-clinical research, and life scien

Re: [Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 20-Aug-08, at 6:13 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya wrote: http://humorix.org/articles/2007/12/monkeys/ -- regards kg One thing is not clear, which species of mon(k)eys were being used by MS? That's a big difference... given that they have employed a million, I dont think they worry about s

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Sify Vs Linux Consumer Forum (Raja Subramanian)

2008-08-20 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
> They give you an ADSL router with an ethernet port (also a > USB port) > on the LAN side. Works out of the box. > > regds > > -- Thanks I will try that. But an interesting thing happened -- something I always do. The Sify engineer that came to my place to rectify the problem. I bombarded him

[Ilugc] Bengalureans to come out with candles against monopolising knowledge

2008-08-20 Thread Praveen A
Free Software User Group Bangalore is organising candle light vigil to say no to software patents on 23rd Saturday. More details here http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/Say_No_To_Software_Patents#Candle_Light_Vigil Invite your facebook friends at http://www.new.facebook.com/event.php?eid=27662916862 Rega

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Sify Vs Linux Consumer Forum (Raja Subramanian)

2008-08-20 Thread Mano
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does it need some tweaking to make GNU/Linux work on it, or it works out of > the box? They give you an ADSL router with an ethernet port (also a USB port) on the LAN side. Works out of the box. regds -- A facility

Re: [Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >>> From: Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> http://humorix.org/articles/2007/12/monkeys/ > > we have to wait till they reprogram the shift key to decide that ;-) These primate research guys should learn to use "xmodmap" or "loadkeys". :

[Ilugc] Debian-Med project preferred BioPuppy Linux

2008-08-20 Thread Prakash Srinivasan
Dear All, I gladly inform you that, BioPuppy Linux is now encouraged by one of the Debian project called Debian-Med. The Debian-Med project presents packages that are associated with medicine, pre-clinical research, and life science. Its developments are mostly focused on three areas for th

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Sify Vs Linux Consumer Forum (Raja Subramanian)

2008-08-20 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
> > Whats MSNL?!! If you mean BSNL, I have been using it for 4 > years now > -at distant Avadi - without a glitch except for once when > the BSNL > cable got damaged because of digging by somebody else. > Other than that > incident, I have never had to contact them. It just works. > > regds, > m

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Sify Vs Linux Consumer Forum (Raja Subramanian)

2008-08-20 Thread Mano
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Swapnil Bhartiya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem is in my locality, only Sify is available. I have heard that MSNL > can be a lot troublesome when down...so have not tried that. > Whats MSNL?!! If you mean BSNL, I have been using it for 4 years now -at

[Ilugc] KDE Automount not working

2008-08-20 Thread Kumar Ravichandran
Dear ilugc members, For a few days now, KDE has stopped automounting my USB and CDs. I seem to have to mount them myself now. To perform some diagnostics, I attempted to purge and reinstall hal, udev and kdebase-kioplugins, but to no avail. Then, to check if the problem was something in my KDE do

[Ilugc] [Commercial][Jobs] Experienced System Administrator for Zoomin.com

2008-08-20 Thread PV Sundarram
Zoomin.com is looking for a highly qualified Systems Administrator to help administer our engineering infrastructure. Perfect Fit: - You have top notch hacking skills, including Unix/Linux/Windows/SQL administration experience. - You have administered a high-growth websit

Re: [Ilugc] Re: Sify Vs Linux Consumer Forum (Raja Subramanian)

2008-08-20 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
> I would recommend not to go for any cable at all. I have > tried 2-3 cable vendors and all of them suck big time. > Hathway, Sify included. > > In my experience - DSL is much more reliable. Airtel and > BSNL are pretty good. I have been using Airtel ADSL for more > than 3 yrs in my office (10 em

Re: [Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Swapnil Bhartiya
> http://humorix.org/articles/2007/12/monkeys/ > > -- > > regards > kg One thing is not clear, which species of mon(k)eys were being used by MS? That's a big difference... Swapnil Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail

[Ilugc] Re: Sify Vs Linux Consumer Forum (Raja Subramanian)

2008-08-20 Thread K.C. Ramakrishna
I would recommend not to go for any cable at all. I have tried 2-3 cable vendors and all of them suck big time. Hathway, Sify included. In my experience - DSL is much more reliable. Airtel and BSNL are pretty good. I have been using Airtel ADSL for more than 3 yrs in my office (10 employees) an

[Ilugc] Solution - Skype on Linux

2008-08-20 Thread K.C. Ramakrishna
Hi all, You can add the skype repository in Ubuntu: System -> Administration -> Software Sources -> Third party software Click on 'Add' in URI add 'http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ Distribution: stable components: non-free This will ensure that you always get the latest updates to

Re: [Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On 20-Aug-08, at 4:28 PM, Raman.P wrote: From: Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Ilugc] coolness To: "ILUG-C Chennai" Date: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 3:24 PM http://humorix.org/articles/2007/12/monkeys/ The experiment confirms that perl is for human beings. we have to wai

Re: [Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Raman.P
> From: Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Ilugc] coolness > To: "ILUG-C Chennai" > Date: Wednesday, 20 August, 2008, 3:24 PM > http://humorix.org/articles/2007/12/monkeys/ The experiment confirms that perl is for human beings. Raman.P Download prohibited? No problem. CHA

Re: [Ilugc] How to compile linux kernel 0.11

2008-08-20 Thread Mehul Ved
On 8/20/08, Kapil Hari Paranjape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Compilation should work but you probably need an older version of gcc > (2.95 may be enough). I suspect 0.11 will not compile otherwise. I'd rather put an old OS under virtualisation and have fun with it, it will be low on resources an

Re: [Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Balachandran Sivakumar
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://humorix.org/articles/2007/12/monkeys/ > The funniest part of the site was this "Windows Vista, the world's most talked-about operating system" Good example of day dreaming :) -- Thank you Balachand

[Ilugc] coolness

2008-08-20 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
http://humorix.org/articles/2007/12/monkeys/ -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/ ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread Girish Venkatachalam
On 07:05:54 Aug 20, baskar k wrote: > I'll try to demonstrate virtualization using Xen. Xen is a fairly > simple operating system that acts as a hypervisor that other OSes can > run on top of it. > Virtualization is a technique by which mutiple guest operating system > can be allowed to be run on

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread Arun Khan
On Wednesday 20 Aug 2008, benjamin wrote: > "Virtualization is a technique by which mutiple guest operating > system can be allowed to be run on a base operating system" > > on "a base operating system" or "on the hardware"? On a "base (or host) operating system". VM has been there on mainframe

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Hello, On Wed, 20 Aug 2008, benjamin wrote: > "Virtualization is a technique by which mutiple guest operating system > can be allowed to be run on a base operating system" > > on "a base operating system" or "on the hardware"? Usually, there _is_ a base operating system which is called the host

Re: [Ilugc] Virtualization

2008-08-20 Thread benjamin
"Virtualization is a technique by which mutiple guest operating system can be allowed to be run on a base operating system" on "a base operating system" or "on the hardware"? ___ To unsubscribe, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe " in the subje

Re: [Ilugc] How to compile linux kernel 0.11

2008-08-20 Thread Kapil Hari Paranjape
Dear Sanath, On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, sanath kumar wrote: > Hi friends, I'm an UG student. I'm very much interested in linux and i am > well versed with the theoritical basics of OS. I also am doing a course on > UNIX. So i thought it would high time to make my hands dirty on kernel > codes. I did not