[Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-12 Thread kenneth gonsalves
hi, I find dotcloud.com very interesting - it may not be open source, but supports many open source stacks. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ ILUGC Mailing List: http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/mailman/listinfo/ilugc

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-12 Thread 0
> > I find dotcloud.com very interesting - it may not be open source, but > supports many open source stacks. Its an interesting system. I wonder how they protect their system from malicious users, considering they provide a service to run background processes. http://docs.dotcloud.com/guides/

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:34 AM, 0 <0...@0throot.com> wrote: > > > > > I find dotcloud.com very interesting - it may not be open source, but > > supports many open source stacks. > > Its an interesting system. I wonder how they protect their system from > malicious users, considering they provide

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 18:24 +0530, Suraj Kumar wrote: > dotcloud is a VPS: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server and > due to its inherently 'compartmentalized' nature it allows a hosting > service provider to divide a physical server into logical spaces. it is not a VPS. -- rega

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:03 AM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 18:24 +0530, Suraj Kumar wrote: > > dotcloud is a VPS: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server and > > due to its inherently 'compartmentalized' nature it allows a hosting > > service provider to divi

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Suraj Kumar wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:03 AM, kenneth gonsalves > wrote: > >> On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 18:24 +0530, Suraj Kumar wrote: >> > dotcloud is a VPS: >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server and >> > due to its inherently 'compa

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread 0
> > Never mind - they build on top of Amazon EC2 and sell themselves as a > "platform as a service". Business/Marketing jargon but they are essentially > still a VPS (IMO, a VPS--) underneath. > No, they are not. VPS and PaaS are very different. dotcloud seems to offer various services you can u

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:42 AM, 0 <0...@0throot.com> wrote: > > No, they are not. VPS and PaaS are very different. dotcloud seems to > offer various services you can use to build you application while in a > VPS you can go nuts and do *whatever* you want with your guest OS since > you get root a

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread Ravi Kumar Tenneti
Hi, Never mind - they build on top of Amazon EC2 and sell themselves as a "platform as a service". They don't sell it as Platform as a Service (which is known as PaaS) but they say that it is Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS). There is lot of difference between the two and of course Amazon has

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-14 Thread 0
> Right. They offer the services of "ops" which in the VPS world is to be > done on one's own. > Not necessarily, because there are also fully managed VPS providers who do the ops for you. But you are right, it is something similar. -- 0 ___ ILUGC Ma

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-16 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Thu, 2011-12-15 at 10:17 +0530, Suraj Kumar wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-12-14 at 18:24 +0530, Suraj Kumar wrote: > > > dotcloud is a VPS: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server and > > > due to its inherently 'compartmentalized' nature it allows a > hosting > > > service provider

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-16 Thread 0
> > a VPS as I understand it is a share on a server which as far as the user > is concerned is a full server with root access. The only thing one > cannot do in most VPSs is install a new distro. One can upgrade to a new > release of the installed distro. Dotcloud does not even give shell > access

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-16 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:39 AM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > a VPS as I understand it is a share on a server which as far as the user > is concerned is a full server with root access. The only thing one > cannot do in most VPSs is install a new distro. One can upgrade to a new > release of the ins

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-16 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:49 +0530, Suraj Kumar wrote: > > a VPS as I understand it is a share on a server which as far as the > user > > is concerned is a full server with root access. The only thing one > > cannot do in most VPSs is install a new distro. One can upgrade to a > new > > release of t

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-17 Thread Suraj Kumar
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:14 PM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > by the end user? > If you mean by the person choosing to host with such services, partly yes - to the extent of 'selecting' which predefined OS stack we'd like to use. Cheers, -Suraj -- Career Gear - Industry Driven Talent Factory

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-17 Thread Arun Venkataswamy
On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 12:14 PM, kenneth gonsalves wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 11:49 +0530, Suraj Kumar wrote: > > Not quite. VPSes, whether achieved using Paravirtualization (like Xen) > > or > > using Compartmentalization (like OpenVZ) limits / binds one to the > > same > > kernel but everyt

Re: [Ilugc] [OT]free hosting

2011-12-18 Thread kenneth gonsalves
On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 00:40 +0530, Arun Venkataswamy wrote: > I use Linode VPS > http://www.linode.com/faq.cfm > > Apart from a wide choice of distributions the end user can select, > there is > an option to upload your own distribution. things are improving - maybe my guy also offers this now.