Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-29 Thread Arun Khan
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sud...@openlx.com wrote: Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. What were motherboard brands have you been using till now? The vendor made me talk to an Intel guy on conference, who said

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Chirag Anand
On 25 January 2013 12:58, Saurabh Jain saurabh.j...@gmail.com wrote: Agreed. The same way they are thinking of getting rid of boxed processors, instead the processor will be a part of the motherboard when shipped. But that I thought was only killing the hobbyist, can't see any direct impact on

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Nalin Savara
My comments below: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Chirag Anand anand.chi...@gmail.comwrote: On 25 January 2013 12:58, Saurabh Jain saurabh.j...@gmail.com wrote: snip Rather than upgrade the processor, you should get a new system. And no, the old board+processor does not end up in a

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Chirag Anand
On 25 January 2013 14:53, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: My comments below: [..] the king is dead... Long live The King... that's the saying I remember when I hear stuff like death of second hand market... I think I was misunderstood. What I meant was the second hand market for

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Saurabh Jain
The second hand market will soon die after a couple of years after this gets implemented. The second hand market does not work on upgrading the processor or any other parts. It works on sustenance. You can very easily do BGA level desoldering and repair. These guys have chip level repairing

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Chirag Anand
On 25 January 2013 15:20, Saurabh Jain saurabh.j...@gmail.com wrote: The second hand market will soon die after a couple of years after this gets implemented. The second hand market does not work on upgrading the processor or any other parts. It works on sustenance. You can very easily do BGA

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/25/2013 05:51 AM, Sudhir Gandotra wrote: Hello, Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. For the sake of completeness, its worth pointing out that intel is exiting the entire desktop mobo / kit business. - KB

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Inder singh
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Chirag Anand anand.chi...@gmail.com wrote: Well, with the introduction of usage of UEFI secure boot in Windows 8, and perhaps some more evil plass of MS in future, it might actually affect everyone in the long run. I had the (ugly) opportunity to help a

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/25/2013 08:12 PM, Inder singh wrote: Oh, You touched the thorny nerve. I have faced and felt pity on a Dell Laptop with UEFI. What laptop ? What problem ? Did it not have a legacy or a bios fallback mode ? - KB ___ Ilugd mailing list

[ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-24 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
Hello, Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. The vendor made me talk to an Intel guy on conference, who said Intel makes Server boards that support Linux, since Linux is largely used on servers only. They do have many boards that supports

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-24 Thread Nalin Savara
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sud...@openlx.com wrote: Hello, Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. The vendor made me talk to an Intel guy on conference, who said Intel makes Server boards that support Linux, since

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-24 Thread Chirag Anand
On 25 January 2013 12:21, Nalin Savara nsn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Sudhir Gandotra sud...@openlx.com wrote: Hello, Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. The vendor made me talk to an Intel guy on conference,

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-24 Thread Saurabh Jain
Hi Sudhir Yesterday I found that Intel is not making any motherboard that supports Linux on Desktop. Intel is one of the primary sponsors of Linux development. Alan Cox was employed by Intel till he resigned yesterday. Intel is also quitting the desktop board business, as announced by them

Re: [ilugd] Has INTEL been taken over by m$ or is it a market-manipulation tie-up ??

2013-01-24 Thread Saurabh Jain
Agreed. The same way they are thinking of getting rid of boxed processors, instead the processor will be a part of the motherboard when shipped. But that I thought was only killing the hobbyist, can't see any direct impact on Linux or a relation to MS. I've been working with on-board