With reference to your mail.
I want to say that,I am a student of Computer Science & Engg. second year,
Maharaja Agrasen Institute of Technology, Rohini, Delhi. During this summer
vacation session I have
to undergo summer training.
I am deeply interested in Linux/Networking, and I am also know very much about
C, C++, JAVA and UNIX-SHELL programming languages. I am also friendly with
Linux/Linux packages installation.
If there is any training apportunity for me there. So, please give me this
apportinity.
I am very thankful for this support.
KASHIF RAZA
4th Sem
COMPUTER SCIENCE & ENGG.
MAHARAJA AGRASEN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
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4. Fc =! production?? (gaurav)
5. Re: Fc =! production?? (Raj shekhar)
6. Re: Fc =! production?? (Sandip Bhattacharya)
7. Re: Fc =! production?? (Raj shekhar)
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10. Re: How much RAM ? : dmesg vs /proc/memnfo (Abhijit Menon-Sen)
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12. Re: Fc =! production?? (Raj Mathur)
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Message: 1
Date: 22 Mar 2005 03:53:09 -0000
From: "parveen kumar khera"
Subject: [ilugd] Bandwidth Management
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Hello group,
These days i am facing a problem of bandwidth management. We have radio
connectivity with our isp, the problem is that if there is any MS pc corrupted
with virus it keeps on consuming a lot of bandwidth and other's are no able to
even surf the net. The internet connectivity which is actually 128 kbps pure
coming to us. I am looking for a bandwidth management software based on IP
which may help me controlling the access of internet at all users.
Waiting for appreciable replies.
Thang you.
Parveen
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:30:07 -0800 (PST)
From: aman rai
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Please Help! I'm unable to play my VCD
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there are plenty of other players available for linux as well... try VideoLAN
Player ... its supposed to be a streaming player... but does a pretty good job
on a stand alone system as well...
www.videolan.org/vlc/
Aman
Pankaj kaushal
wrote:
Dips wrote:
> I'm learning Linux, It's really good, please help me,
> I'm facing trouble in playing my VCD, I've installed
> RedHat Linux 9.0, it's working perfectly but when I
> plays VCD it not working, don't know why, pls help
What are you using to play the vcd? Try Mplayer( mplayerhq.hu ). you'll
need to compile it. Read through the documentation and ask questions if
you need further help.
The Mplayer webiste is closing down because the European commission has
passed its directive on software patent's and mplayer infringes on
*many* of them So, hurry.
H.I.H!
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Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 20:49:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Amit Sharma
Subject: Re: [ilugd] [ Commercial ] System Administration Requirment.
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where in India?
amit
--- Animesh Singh wrote:
> Evening Luggers,
>
> GTL has requirment for System Administration for
> India and abroad. Skills
> required for same are:
>
> 1. Very Good knowledge of Sendmail.
> 2. Bash/perl scripting.
> 3. Database knowledge.
> 4. Performance tuning.
> 5. Anti SPAM + Anti Virus integration with sendmail.
>
> Please forward your cv to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
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> Note: Experience 4 - 8 years.
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:08:05 +0530
From: gaurav
Subject: [ilugd] Fc =! production??
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Hi guys,
I want to know if fedora is good enough for production
Even though I not much problem running my fc servers all people I have
consulted say I should use debian (and no I cannot pay for RHEL).....is
it based on facts like security holes, bugs and response , patches
availability or some general perception ??
regards,
gaurav
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:39:06 +0530
From: Raj shekhar
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fc =! production??
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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gaurav wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I want to know if fedora is good enough for production
> Even though I not much problem running my fc servers all people I have
> consulted say I should use debian (and no I cannot pay for RHEL).....is
> it based on facts like security holes, bugs and response , patches
> availability or some general perception ??
In summary, it depends. If you want the latest softwares, use Fedora.
However, be prepared that in a year's time, you will have to upgrade
your system to the newer version Fedora. Use Debian if you are happy
with older softwares and you want to keep your system in the same state
for quite a few years. As far as security of a system goes, that
depends on the sys admin maintaining the system. Both the distros take
good care to lock down critical packages.
If you need the latest versions of, say Apache/MySQL/PHP, to get your
work done, Fedora Core is a good choice. However, I would advice you to
remain one step behind the latest release of FC. i.e. when they release
FC-3, you use FC-2.
The major disadvantage of FC is the way they ignore legacy systems.
They have a Fedora Legacy project, to take care of FC-1 and FC-2 .
Theoretically speaking, if suppose there is a bug in the mysql-server
package that was distributed with FC-1, Fedora legacy will release the
fix. However, the legacy project has a track record of not doing that.
Debian is very conservative in what packages it releases as stable.
They stay many steps behind the latest release of any software. On the
plus side, they have a very good record of maintaining older packages
and releasing timely patches. Their package management is quite good.
They have a big user base too.
--
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MySQL DBA, programmer and slacker Y!IM : lunatech3007
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:51:21 +0530
From: Sandip Bhattacharya
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fc =! production??
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 13:08 +0530, gaurav wrote:
> Hi guys,
> I want to know if fedora is good enough for production
> Even though I not much problem running my fc servers all people I have
> consulted say I should use debian (and no I cannot pay for RHEL).....is
> it based on facts like security holes, bugs and response , patches
> availability or some general perception ??
>
Part of it is fact, and a part is perception.
For perception, take a look at
http://atulchitnis.net/writings/eyeballtrap.php
And about the facts...
Sysadmins running production servers tend to be a bit conservative about
the software running on them. e.g. you will still find people running
Red Hat Linux 7.3 (I am one of them). Debian stable appeals to these
people because of the emphasis given on stability rather than being
current. Fedora Core packages a lot of software which are in their
current versions. With not much history behind them, these sysadmins
find it uncomfortable to risk their systems on such unknowns.
On the other hand, Fedora Core is good enough for most other
applications - you can run web staging servers, mail servers, database
servers etc. without too much trouble.
Just remember that whenever people talk about "stability", every one has
a different view on what stability means .. and in many cases it is
different from what they actually need.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:13:10 +0530
From: Raj shekhar
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fc =! production??
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
>
> Part of it is fact, and a part is perception.
> For perception, take a look at
> http://atulchitnis.net/writings/eyeballtrap.php
I am not sure what part Chitnis' writing answers the question the
original poster had asked. From what I could see there, it was a rant
of how *most* commercial Linux companies try to push their proprietary
softwares by saying that it runs on Linux.
>From what I know, both the distros (as well as RedHat) are very good at
keeping the non-free softwares out of their releases. Or am I missing
something ?
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:35:34 +0530
From: Sandip Bhattacharya
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fc =! production??
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 14:13 +0530, Raj shekhar wrote:
> Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
> >
> > Part of it is fact, and a part is perception.
> > For perception, take a look at
> > http://atulchitnis.net/writings/eyeballtrap.php
>
> I am not sure what part Chitnis' writing answers the question the
> original poster had asked. From what I could see there, it was a rant
> of how *most* commercial Linux companies try to push their proprietary
> softwares by saying that it runs on Linux.
>
My point with that article was it talks about the trend (and vested
interests) of various Linux vendors to spread the notion that the Free
distributions and software are not good enough and their commercial
variants are better.
- Sandip
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 14:10:38 +0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ilugd] How much RAM ? : dmesg vs /proc/memnfo
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I am stuck. I have to establish how much RAM does this Industrial PC running
linux has?
===========================
dmesg output states
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192k size
===========================
cat /proc/meminfo states
total used free shared buffers cached
mem 263487488 232853504 30633984 226672640 37904384 69111808
===========================
In my opinion I must only recognise dmesg output and state that the PC has
128MB RAM.
Am I correct?? Any other suggestion. I have no access to BIOS.
Anand Shankar
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:10 +0530
From: Abhijit Menon-Sen
Subject: Re: [ilugd] How much RAM ? : dmesg vs /proc/memnfo
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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At 2005-03-22 14:10:38 +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In my opinion I must only recognise dmesg output and state that the PC
> has 128MB RAM.
The line of dmesg output you pasted has nothing to do with the total RAM
on the machine. /proc/meminfo is correct, and the machine apparently has
256MB of RAM (see "free -m").
-- ams
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 15:02:02 +0530
From: Sandip Bhattacharya
Subject: Re: [ilugd] How much RAM ? : dmesg vs /proc/memnfo
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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Content-Type: text/plain
On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 14:10 +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am stuck. I have to establish how much RAM does this Industrial PC running
> linux has?
>
> ===========================
> dmesg output states
>
> RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192k size
>
> ===========================
> cat /proc/meminfo states
>
> total used free shared buffers cached
> mem 263487488 232853504 30633984 226672640 37904384 69111808
>
256MB. meminfo is correct. The RAM disk driver is most probably used
only during booting, and thus doesn't need to take up all the memory.
- Sandip
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2005 16:06:09 +0530
From: Raj Mathur
Subject: Re: [ilugd] Fc =! production??
To: The Linux-Delhi mailing list
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>>>>> "Sandip" == Sandip Bhattacharya writes:
Sandip> On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 13:08 +0530, gaurav wrote:
>> Hi guys, I want to know if fedora is good enough for production
>> Even though I not much problem running my fc servers all people
>> I have consulted say I should use debian (and no I cannot pay
>> for RHEL).....is it based on facts like security holes, bugs
>> and response , patches availability or some general perception
>> ??
Sandip> Part of it is fact, and a part is perception. For
Sandip> perception, take a look at
Sandip> http://atulchitnis.net/writings/eyeballtrap.php
Sandip> And about the facts... Sysadmins running production
Sandip> servers tend to be a bit conservative about the software
Sandip> running on them. e.g. you will still find people running
Sandip> Red Hat Linux 7.3 (I am one of them). Debian stable
Sandip> appeals to these people because of the emphasis given on
Sandip> stability rather than being current. Fedora Core packages
Sandip> a lot of software which are in their current
Sandip> versions. With not much history behind them, these
Sandip> sysadmins find it uncomfortable to risk their systems on
Sandip> such unknowns.
Sandip> On the other hand, Fedora Core is good enough for most
Sandip> other applications - you can run web staging servers, mail
Sandip> servers, database servers etc. without too much trouble.
Sandip> Just remember that whenever people talk about "stability",
Sandip> every one has a different view on what stability means
Sandip> .. and in many cases it is different from what they
Sandip> actually need.
I can see more flame wars in the making, but here goes anyway...
I have been steadily moving my clients over from old versions of Red
Hat to Debian over the past few months. And yes, I hate getting stuck
with pre-historic software as much as the next person. So what I do
is migrate to Debian Sarge (the Testing release).
You'd be surprised how extremely stable Sarge is. On a subjective
note, I'd say Sarge is at least as stable as FC3, if not more. One
server I manage is handling scanning and relay of 1M mail messages a
day over the past 4 months (Sendmail, ClamAV, SpamAssassin), and is
rock solid -- no problems at all and consistent load average under 5,
usually under 1. Now THAT is what I like to see in my client
production boxes -- fewer calls to me, you see :)
I liked Sarge so much that when I bought my new desktop box (I'm sure
you've all heard of it by now ;) I got rid of the FC that I'd been
running on all my other systems and installed Sarge on it. This was a
couple of months ago, and I haven't regretted the decision once so
far. Everything works out of the box, the system is stable, new
versions of all software I use are available, and apt is a dream to
administer.
Have a good look at Sarge if you want both the stability and security
of Debian and the cutting edge packages of FC. And of course, if you
run into any trouble I'll be glad to help you, for the usual nominal
fee :)
Gotta go now... time to install another 6 Sarge boxes in Gurgaon.
Regards,
-- Raju
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