Re: FLAGS vs PERMANENTFLAGS

2004-08-05 Thread Stuart Nicholson
I believe I was misinterpreting the intent of the PERMANENTFLAGS response. After receiving Larry's replies I now feel this response is largely irrelevant to our wireless client because of its mode of operation (i.e. SnapperMail queries message flags from the server at the start of each session).

Re: FLAGS vs PERMANENTFLAGS

2004-08-05 Thread Pete Maclean
Stuart, The SELECT response that you quote strikes me as unusual, perhaps even a bit anomalous, but not unreasonable. The user might, for example, have permissions that, in principle, give him write access to the mailbox but have specific prohibitions for storing each message flag. (That's a

RE: FLAGS vs PERMANENTFLAGS

2004-08-05 Thread Larry Osterman
This is one of the most subtle parts of IMAP IMHO. READ-ONLY deals with the messages in the folder, not necessarily the flags on those messages. The flags on a messages can always be modified, but they might not be persisted. I'm not sure I understand what "honoring" permanentflags means. The s

Re: FLAGS vs PERMANENTFLAGS

2004-08-05 Thread Stuart Nicholson
Nicely put and I see your point. I'm dealing with a wireless client that isn't using the normal IMAP 'connected' model. Our sessions typically last less than 5 minutes which has obviously influenced our design. However I would expect folders that can't be modified to have the READ-ONLY property sur

RE: FLAGS vs PERMANENTFLAGS

2004-08-05 Thread Larry Osterman
That behavior (empty permanentflags but flags) is explicitly allowed. And if you read the spec VERY carefully you'll find it's REQUIRED if the user can't modify the folder. The server maintains flags, but they aren't persisted. Think of it this way: FLAGS is the set of flags supported by the serv

FLAGS vs PERMANENTFLAGS

2004-08-05 Thread Stuart Nicholson
Greetings, my first post here so an brief intro: I'm the developer building IMAP client support for SnapperFish. We're responsible for 'SnapperMail' (www.snappermail.com) a wireless email client for PalmOS based devices. Question: How well honoured are FLAGS vs PERMANENTFLAGS in the IMAP community

IMAP conformance test suite?

2004-08-05 Thread petite_abeille
Hello, I'm in the process of testing a little embedded IMAP server which is part of a P2P messaging system and... I was wandering if there is an "official conformance test suite" anywhere which could assist me with uncovering any protocol related glitches in a more or less systematic way? RFC