Re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-31 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Mark Crispin wrote: OK, I'm trying to digest all of this. It seems clear to me that TLS+AUTH=PLAIN will be a solution, and will be required of all IMAP server implementations. I have not seen any objection to either TLS+AUTH=PLAIN is a solution or TLS+AUTH=PLAIN is required of all server

Re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-31 Thread ned
Assuming that we set TLS+AUTH=PLAIN as the mandatory to implement answer for IESG, I have two questions: 1) Can a compliant server implementation be built without TLS support? In particular, UW's pre-built imapd binaries do *NOT* have TLS support because our lawyers' interpretation of US

Re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-30 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Mark Crispin wrote: (2) Require implementation of DIGEST-MD5. This is not as widely deployed AFAIK it is completely undeployed in the IMAP world. See http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/mel/SASL_ServerRef.html and http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/mel/SASL_ClientRef.html for a list of

Re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt (fwd)

2002-05-30 Thread Chris Newman
begin quotation by Lyndon Nerenberg on 2002/5/30 11:06 -0600: If the requirement is strictly for the can interoperate checkbox then that list should contain only CRAM-MD5. I'm generally opposed to including CRAM-MD5 as a mandatory to implement, even as a SHOULD. While it's widely implemented

Re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-30 Thread Randall S. Winchester
Are we talking about TLS on the IANA registerd port 993/TCP or are we talking about STARTTLS over a potentially clear text port 143/TCP ? Thank you for clarifying. Randall On Thu, 30 May 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: : OK, I'm trying to digest all of this. : : It seems clear to me that

RE: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-29 Thread Jessica Leah Blank
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re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-29 Thread Mark Crispin
On Wed, 29 May 2002 12:35:17 -0700 (PDT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A specific protocol is another matter. The IESG's belief is that specific protocols need to have one or more mandatory to implement SASL mechanisms. Mandatory to implement doesn't mean mandatory to use. Just because you have

Re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-29 Thread Mark Crispin
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Lawrence Greenfield wrote: Our local site policy doesn't offer DIGEST-MD5---but that isn't what we're talking about. The point seems to be interoperability between compliant implementations. A client which only implements DIGEST-MD5 is not able to talk to your server. I

re: IESG review of draft-crispin-imapv-16.txt

2002-05-29 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 29 May 2002, Mark Crispin wrote: OK, this is helpful and may be the breakthrough that was needed. How about the following: [big snip...] This matches current reality. I don't see SRP discussed anywhere. I feel more comfortable with it than CRAM-MD5 because of the issue of storage