Re: unobtrusive monitoring

2002-09-25 Thread ber
1-4. Thanks. I'll start working on the "Long-term unobtrusive monitoring of mail boxes protocol" rfc. brian On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 04:03 PM, Mark Crispin wrote: > There is no simple answer.

Re: unobtrusive monitoring

2002-09-25 Thread Mark Crispin
ed lock problems. Furthermore, SELECT will cause \Recent flags to be "lost" if your monitoring session sees the mailbox first. The bottom line is that IMAP was not designed to facilitate long-term unobtrusive monitoring, and so its monitoring capabilities are basically "snoop at a snapshot."

Re: unobtrusive monitoring

2002-09-25 Thread ber
Thanks for the explanation. Is there a way to determine what behavior to expect? How would you reliably monitor mail (what's new and who's it from, what flags changed and what got expunged) without permanently affecting the Seen flag? Or does that not have a simple answer? brian On W

re: unobtrusive monitoring

2002-09-25 Thread Mark Crispin
If a server does not normally announce new mail messages with EXAMINE it probably not do so just because you use the IDLE command. The entire reason why a server might not announce new mail messages with EXAMINE is if the underlying mail store requires an exclusive lock in order to read. If the

unobtrusive monitoring

2002-09-25 Thread ber
I want to monitor mail from a functionally read-only client as I just want to create a fancy biff. It's been pointed out EXAMINE does not necessarily work for this as untagged EXPUNGE/FETCH/EXISTS responses are not forthcoming from all servers in read-only mode. In searching through the archives