[indiana-discuss] Running Indy2 in SXDE4 under VirtualBox

2008-02-13 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
http://picasaweb.google.com/WLiauh/RunningIndy2InSXDE4UnderVirtualBox Screenshot 01: Splash screen after Indy2 LiveCD is inserted into SXDE4 CD drive Screenshot 02: Indy2 LiveCD begins to run in SXDE4 under VirtualBox Screenshot 03: First screen of Indy2 LiveCD running in SXDE4, selecting keybo

Re: [indiana-discuss] Change default prompt in OpenSolaris?

2008-02-13 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 13, 2008 9:37 AM, John Tracy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello All- > I recently installed Developer Preview 2, and was pleasantly surprised when a > bash shell greeted me by default. I was wondering, however, if we may change > the default prompt to be something a bit more useful than ju

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 13, 2008 3:12 PM, Brian Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Brian > > Joerg is referring to the fact that ksh93 and bourne shell have some > minor incompatibilities. It is possible to write a script that will > work differently in the two shells. Academics have even written some > scrip

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread David . Comay
[ Bcc'ing advocacy-discuss and opensolaris-discuss to reduce cross-posting ] Peter, > It would help a lot if the aims of this project were clearly explained > and enunciated, because I for one haven't a clue what they are, and > the more I think about it and look at what has been announced and >

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Tim Bray
On Feb 13, 2008, at 3:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> $ mkdir ae-tmp > $ mv ae-2.6.0a.tar.gz ae-tmp > $ hdiutil makehybrid -o ae-tmp ae-tmp/ > > and then tell VirtualBox to export that ISO file, ae-tmp.iso, into the > VM. Or get VBox to mount it as a CD. -T _

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Miner
Peter Tribble wrote: > On Feb 13, 2008 8:44 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility with anything, >> either past or future, in the preview releases. It's an experiment. >> The negativity some of you have towards experiments just amazes me

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread David . Comay
> That's good, thank you. Now the problem is how to get it from the net > without network access. :-) I'll try to figure it out (I understand that > there is no "shared folders drivers" for Solaris). The way I got the "ae" tarball into the VM was to create an ISO under MacOS X $ mkdir ae-

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Peter Tribble
On Feb 13, 2008 8:44 PM, Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sigh. We have made no statements about compatibility with anything, > either past or future, in the preview releases. It's an experiment. > The negativity some of you have towards experiments just amazes me > sometimes. But what'

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Laszlo (Laca) Peter
The GNOME l10n packages are available from pkg.opensolaris.org: pkg:/[EMAIL PROTECTED],5.11-0.75:20071114T205021Z Laca On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 08:18 -0700, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote: > Alex wrote: > > What about national locales (russian) in this preview? > > > No localization is available for previ

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Giacomo Tufano
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> installed the beast on VirtualBox on OS X (two betas in one shot) and I'm >> without any network interface... Docs claims the virtual interface is an > > My recommendation for now with VirtualBox is to download Masayuki > Murayama's "ae" driver > >

Re: [indiana-discuss] Change default prompt in OpenSolaris?

2008-02-13 Thread Michelle Olson
Hi John, In the meantime, I think this /etc/profile hack might be nice to include in the Getting Started Guide (could be a nice start to a new section on shells). Instructions for accessing the source for the guide and contributing are here if you're interested: http://opensolaris.org/os/proje

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread John Levon
On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 03:12:31PM -0600, Brian Cameron wrote: > Joerg is referring to the fact that ksh93 and bourne shell have some > minor incompatibilities. It is possible to write a script that will > work differently in the two shells. Academics have even written some > scripts to demonstr

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Cameron
Brian Joerg is referring to the fact that ksh93 and bourne shell have some minor incompatibilities. It is possible to write a script that will work differently in the two shells. Academics have even written some scripts to demonstrate these incompatibilities really exist. The three users in th

Re: [indiana-discuss] ATA timeouts when installing Preview 2

2008-02-13 Thread David Blundell
Hi Julian, Good idea but unfortunately the bios does not have an option for disabling the built-in network interface and the installation does not get far enough to give me a shell to type commands. On 13 Feb 2008, at 20:51, Julian Wiesener wrote: > try to disable the Network-Interface. I've

Re: [indiana-discuss] ATA timeouts when installing Preview 2

2008-02-13 Thread Julian Wiesener
Hello David, On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 20:23 +, David Blundell wrote: > If anyone has any ideas for avoiding the timeouts, I'd love to hear > them. try to disable the Network-Interface. I've seen such errors on my Laptop, ata i/o become frozen as soon as i plumb a network interface, the install

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Miner
Joerg Schilling wrote: > "Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default user shell) >>> What do

[indiana-discuss] ATA timeouts when installing Preview 2

2008-02-13 Thread David Blundell
I am trying to install Indiana Preview 2 onto a spare desktop PC. The desktop is a Shuttle SS51G with this motherboard: http://eu.shuttle.com/archive/en/fs51.htm#mainboardfs5 Something very similar to this hardware is listed in the HCL at http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl/data/systems/details/1

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Lurie
I still think it's a wee misleading, one assumes that he/she already has the 75 version. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-d

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Sean Liu
yes, but it can be confusing - you are upgrading to b79 but should install the b75 SUNWipkg - I simply thought the procedure was prepared for b75 upgrades... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@o

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Sean Liu
The image update went OK. But seems there is some message problem for pkg command: -bash-3.2# [b]pkg status -u pkg: no packages installed [/b] doesn't sound right... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing li

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 13, 2008 1:02 PM, Lurie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I second that, please add a comment, it's a common pitfall. There is actually a comment on the upgrading page about that already. It notes the important of specifying the version of the package when installing it. -- Shawn Walker, Soft

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Rich Teer wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Shawn Walker wrote: > >> /usr/has/bin/sh >> >> ...since it is a "hasbin" :) > > Groan! korny ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.or

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 13, 2008 1:21 PM, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, > > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Brian Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Joerg Schilling wrote: > >>> Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the de

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Joerg Schilling wrote: > Brian Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >>> Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default user shell) >>> What do you understand by "*system* sh

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Shawn Walker wrote: > /usr/has/bin/sh > > ...since it is a "hasbin" :) Groan! -- Rich Teer, SCSA, SCNA, SCSECA, OGB member CEO, My Online Home Inventory URLs: http://www.rite-group.com/rich http://www.linkedin.com/in/richteer http://www.myonlinehomeinventory.

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Brian Nitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default > >> user shell) > >> > > > > What do you understand by "*system* shell"? > > > > Jörg > > > >

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Shawn Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default > > > user shell) > > > > What do you understand by "*sys

Re: [indiana-discuss] [osol-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: > BTW: I vote against allowing to replace /sbin/sh by something different than > a > 100% compatible Bourne shell for distributions that like to use the > OpenSolaris > trademark. Discussions of what properties distros must have to use the OpenSolaris trademark are bein

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Lurie
I second that, please add a comment, it's a common pitfall. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Sean Liu
OK I thought that was for previous release and was trying to be a smart ass :-) Maybe the step can be a little specific and say use the SUNWipkg that matches the CURRENT NV version ( 0.75 fro build 75 ) Let's see how the image update goes -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Shawn Walker
On Feb 13, 2008 11:10 AM, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default > > user shell) > > What do you understand by "*system* shell"? /sbin/sh, /usr/bin/sh are now really ksh93.

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread David . Comay
> I don't know if there are separate packages to download because I just > installed the beast on VirtualBox on OS X (two betas in one shot) and I'm > without any network interface... Docs claims the virtual interface is an > AMD PCNet. But the ernel don't detect anything. Any hints on this one? M

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Brian Nitz
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default >> user shell) >> > > What do you understand by "*system* shell"? > > Jörg > > It's the shell /usr/sh points to. This satisfies backward compat

Re: [indiana-discuss] [advocacy-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >o ksh93 is the default *system* shell (bash remains the default > user shell) What do you understand by "*system* shell"? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni)

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Sean Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-02-13 17:04]: > That's actually exactly what I did last time and this time. As you can see my > clones are already mounted. > # zfs list > NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT > zpl_slim 6.06G 6.37G71K /zpl_slim > zpl_slim/ex

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Sean Liu
That's actually exactly what I did last time and this time. As you can see my clones are already mounted. # zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT zpl_slim 6.06G 6.37G71K /zpl_slim zpl_slim/export 3.58G 6.37G19K /export zpl_slim/export/home 3

Re: [indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Bart Smaalders
Sean Liu wrote: > Was trying to find out if indy2 can be upgraded via image refresh. but when I > was installing the new SUNWipkg, I get: > # pkg install SUNWipkg Follow the instructions here: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/resources/update_guidelines/ This will be much easier (more

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Bart Smaalders
Giacomo Tufano wrote: > On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote: >> Alex wrote: >>> What about national locales (russian) in this preview? >>> >> No localization is available for preview-2. We are planning on having >> this available for the next release. > > Some support for ISO-xxx or UTF-8 l

[indiana-discuss] pkg install SUNWipkg does not work

2008-02-13 Thread Sean Liu
Was trying to find out if indy2 can be upgraded via image refresh. but when I was installing the new SUNWipkg, I get: # pkg install SUNWipkg Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 607, in ? ret = main_func() File "/usr/bin/pkg", line 572, in main_func install(img,

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Giacomo Tufano
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008, Sanjay Nadkarni wrote: > Alex wrote: >> What about national locales (russian) in this preview? >> > No localization is available for preview-2. We are planning on having > this available for the next release. Some support for ISO-xxx or UTF-8 locales? Default locale is 'C' and

[indiana-discuss] Change default prompt in OpenSolaris?

2008-02-13 Thread John Tracy
Hello All- I recently installed Developer Preview 2, and was pleasantly surprised when a bash shell greeted me by default. I was wondering, however, if we may change the default prompt to be something a bit more useful than just "bash3.2$". One of the first things I do when deploying a copy of S

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Sanjay Nadkarni
Alex wrote: > What about national locales (russian) in this preview? > No localization is available for preview-2. We are planning on having this available for the next release. -Sanjay > -- > > This message posted from opensolaris.org > > ___ > ind

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Chris Pickett
On Feb 13, 2008 2:54 AM, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >o ksh93 is the default *system* shell It has been a long, long way since CR 655171. Thank you for the change. Chris -- ^---^ (@)v(@) Chris Pickett |/ IT consultant ===m==m=== [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

Re: [indiana-discuss] Evolution doesn't execute/run in the release edition?

2008-02-13 Thread Ken Mays
Hello, Ok..it is now Bug 525. I tested the previous 'test release' of Preview 2 and Evolution failed to fully initialize as well. - Ken -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http:

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Alex
What about national locales (russian) in this preview? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Axel
Hi Glynn, thanks for the good work. can you give a short comment on the differences to the Preview2 test release ? Just wondering what will happen if I will use LiveUpdate :) @Tobias: Tack så mycket :) cheers baba -- This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Lurie
Thanks! Keep up the good work :) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ indiana-discuss mailing list indiana-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss

Re: [indiana-discuss] OpenSolaris Developer Preview 2 Available

2008-02-13 Thread Tobias Lundquist
Thanks for the new release. We at DF - the Computer Society at Lund University and Lund Institute of Technology, have updated our mirror, the new release is available at: ftp://ftp.df.lth.se/pub/indiana/current/ The mirror is located in Lund, South Sweden. //Tobias Lundquist Glynn Foster wr