Re: [efloraofindia:62135] Tree from high altitude for id 040211MK2

2011-02-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Pankaj ji This paper should help, because there seems to be some thing more than simple vs compound leaves in the distinction. As far as the list is concerned, follow the following link: http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl/record/tro-6303253

Re: [efloraofindia:62137] Herb from Ooty for ID 050211MK2

2011-02-05 Thread Balkar Arya
I think Capsella probanly C. bursa-pastoris On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Please help to id this herb found as weeb at a private garden in Ooty, Nilgiris. Any Capparaceae member? Sorry the poor pictures. Plant height: 20 cm Leaf:

Re: [efloraofindia:62138] Herb from Ooty for ID 050211MK2

2011-02-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Capsella busa-pastoris, the Shepherd's purse, a member of Brassicaceae -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089

Re: [efloraofindia:62139] Herb from Ooty for ID 050211MK2

2011-02-05 Thread Muthu Karthick
Dear Balkarji and Singhji, many thanks for the identification. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Capsella busa-pastoris, the Shepherd's purse, a member of Brassicaceae -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College,

Re: [efloraofindia:62143] Combretum coccineum

2011-02-05 Thread ajinkya gadave
wow !! On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.comwrote: Combretum coccineum Lam., a climbing shrub of Combretaceae in full bloom at my factory in Pune. This Bride's Bouquet(?) is heralding the arrival of spring. Regards, Shrikant Ingalhalikar 12

Re: [efloraofindia:62144] DV :: 08DEC09 - 1143 :: Barleria ¿ strigosa / terminalis ?

2011-02-05 Thread manudev madhavan
Dinesh ji, You may refer the current edition of Rheedea, in which Indian *Barleria *is revised by Shankar M. Shendage S. R. Yadav. They have given colour photographs of the individual species also.. You can download the paper from the website of IAAT. use the link given below

[efloraofindia:62145] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Satish Nikam
dear friends, neilji is Actinodaphne angustifolia and augustifolia the same,because google gives results only for angustifolia.Besides shrikantji earlier had identified this as angustifolia(Pisa in leaf buds)please clarify thanks regards satish nikam

Re: [efloraofindia:62146] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Dinesh Valke
Satish ji, *augustifolia* is a valid epithet ... however, there is no such species called *Actinodaphne augustifolia*. *Actinodaphne angustifolia* is a valid name, the plant is native of our country. Regards Dinesh. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Satish Nikam satish_ni...@yahoo.com wrote:

Re: [efloraofindia:62147] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
There is no word called augustifolia in my knowledge. Its angustifolia which means 'narrow leaves'. This may also be with reference to the leaf base which gradually narrows down on the petiole. Some times such names are also with reference to another similar looking plant, that might have a

[efloraofindia:62148] Re: DV :: 08DEC09 - 1143 :: Barleria ¿ strigosa / terminalis ?

2011-02-05 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Dineshji, outer sepals dentate is B. strigosa and outer sepals entire is B. terminalis. Both have been recorded from Matheran. If you are not dissecting the flower you may call it B. strigosa or terminalis. Regards, On Feb 5, 4:31 pm, manudev madhavan manudevkmadha...@gmail.com wrote: Dinesh ji,

Re: [efloraofindia:62149] Re: DV :: 08DEC09 - 1143 :: Barleria ¿ strigosa / terminalis ?

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Respected Shrikant Sir, If you look at the link to pdf provided in second post, you will know that both species has been merged under Barleria terminalis and Dinesh sir has referred to that already. http://www.iaat.org.in/Rheedea20_81-130.pdf Its an interesting thing you have pointed on. Hence it

Re: [efloraofindia:62150] Combretum coccineum

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
This is so pretty. From a distance I could have confused with Erythrina!! Thanks for sharing beautiful pic of a beautiful plant. Pankaj On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:44 PM, ajinkya gadave ajinkyagad...@gmail.comwrote: wow !! On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar

Re: [efloraofindia:62152] Tree from high altitude for id 040211MK2

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks for the link. Actually I was looking in the Kew's Checklist. Yes, the list is there on The Plant List, but right now it cant be trusted as it is under review and confidence level is just 66%!! Regards Pankaj On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: Yes

[efloraofindia:62153] Re: DV :: 08DEC09 - 1143 :: Barleria ¿ strigosa / terminalis ?

2011-02-05 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Pankaj ji, I am referring to the same revision and I don't see the 2 sp. being merged. Can you pls elaborate? Regards, Shrikant On Feb 5, 5:37 pm, shrikant ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com wrote: Dineshji, outer sepals dentate is B. strigosa and outer sepals entire is B. terminalis. Both have

Re: [efloraofindia:62154] Re: DV :: 08DEC09 - 1143 :: Barleria ¿ strigosa / terminalis ?

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Respected Sir, Thanks for correcting. I overlooked. Barleria polystachya Nees and Barleria strigosa Willd. var. polystachya (Nees) C.B. Clarke has been merged with Barleria terminalis Nees and not Barleria strigosa Willd. Sorry for the inconvenience. Regards Pankaj On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:34

Re: [efloraofindia:62155] Re: DV :: 08DEC09 - 1143 :: Barleria ¿ strigosa / terminalis ?

2011-02-05 Thread Dinesh Valke
Dear friends, Two varieties of *Barleria strigosa* are put as synonyms of *Barleria terminalis* There are two *Barleria caerulea *(described by two authors) ... they are separately synonyms of *B. terminalis* and *B. strigosa*. *Barleria terminalis* Nees Synonyms: *Barleria polystachya* Nees

Re: [efloraofindia:62156] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Dinesh Valke
Deliberate Google search of augustifolia yields following: Araucaria augustifolia Arnica augustifolia Elaeagnus augustifolia Lavandula augustifolia Malus augustifolia Populus augustifolia Porlieria augustifolia Stenogyne augustifolia Typha augustifolia Some OR all of these words may carry typo

Re: [efloraofindia:62157] Herb from Uttarakhand id amit 5022011

2011-02-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
A close up of flower/inflorescence would help. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Feb 5,

Re: [efloraofindia:62158] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
As mentioned by Pankaj there is no specific epithet augustifolia. All cases mentioned by Dinesh ji are spelling error where n got substituted by u. While citing the web I have a thumb rule. Don't believe isolated mention, always follow the majority, and it works. If a particular thing is

Re: [efloraofindia:62159] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Dinesh Valke
... it is very heartening to find the bluff floating on internet getting skimmed off by our group. Regards Dinesh. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: As mentioned by Pankaj there is no specific epithet augustifolia. All cases mentioned by Dinesh ji are

Re: [efloraofindia:62160] Rose-MN-050211

2011-02-05 Thread tanay bose
Yes these are some creeping varieties the flower looks gorgeous thanks for sharing Tanay On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:18 PM, mani nair mani.na...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, Sending a photo of rose from my uncle's garden in Pattambi, Kerala. The flowers got a nice fragrance and creeping type.

Re: [efloraofindia:62161] Rose plant for id 050211MK1

2011-02-05 Thread tanay bose
Nice roses thanks for sharing tanay On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Please help to id this rose shrub planted at a private garden at Ooty. Is this a hybrid of common garden rose? Date: 24 Jan 201, Nilgiris -- Muthu Karthick, N Care Earth

Re: [efloraofindia:62162] Herb from Ooty for ID 050211MK2

2011-02-05 Thread tanay bose
Yes Capsella bursa-pastoris !!! Study of embryonic development of this plant is used as a model system Tanay On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:33 AM, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: Dear Balkarji and Singhji, many thanks for the identification. On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh

Re: [efloraofindia:62163] Combretum coccineum

2011-02-05 Thread tanay bose
beautiful just looks like ladder to the heaven tanay On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 4:51 AM, promila chaturvedi thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com wrote: I have planted this climber in my house when the last one died. It has not reached flower stage. Promila On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Pankaj

Re: [efloraofindia:62164] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Dear Dinesh Sir, Its fun, but you know, all the plant names you have provided are actually incorrect as all those names are angustifolia. Some are mistakes while some seem to be copy of the mistakes. I am not saying that there is no plant with actually, augustifolia as species epithet, just that I

Re: [efloraofindia:62165] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
IPNI search found 9 matches of augustifolia - Amaranthaceae *Iresine* *augustifolia*

Re: [efloraofindia:62166] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
I tried all these from IPNI for fun. Guess what, same names with angustifolia also exist!!! So I didnt add that information. Eg. Iresine augustifolia Euphrasen Beskr. St. Barthel. 165. Iresine angustifolia Hort. ex Moq. Prodr. (DC.) 13(2): 343. 1849 Fockea augustifolia K.Schum. Bot. Jahrb. Syst.

Re: [efloraofindia:62167] confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Interestingly, for once i thought I found one atleast Hortonia augustifolia Trim. Syst. Cat. Fl. Pl. Ceylon 75 (1885). So just to crosscheck, I looked into the protologue, Systematic Catalogue of the Flowering Plants and Ferns Indigenous to or Growing Wild in Ceylon.by Trimen available on:

[efloraofindia:62170] Re: Rose plant for id 050211MK1

2011-02-05 Thread Mahadeswara
There are hundreds of varieties of roses in Ooty. Better to contact the Horticulture department (Supdt.) for proper identification of the variety and species. On Feb 5, 10:48 am, Muthu Karthick nmk@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, Please help to id this rose shrub planted at a private garden at

[efloraofindia:62171] Re: Combretum coccineum

2011-02-05 Thread Mahadeswara
I have seen this species in Chennai also in Dasaprakash Hotel Complex Campus, but do not have the photograph to upload I hope it is the same variety. On Feb 5, 4:09 pm, Shrikant Ingalhalikar le...@rediffmail.com wrote: Combretum coccineum Lam., a climbing shrub of Combretaceae in full bloom

[efloraofindia:62172] Re: confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread shrikant ingalhalikar
Permit me to add etymological meaning of angustifolia as 'narrow- leaved'. Does that sort out the issue? Regards, On Feb 6, 8:05 am, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote: It is really interesting    -    Amaranthaceae *Iresine* *augustifolia*

Re: [efloraofindia:62173] Re: confirmation

2011-02-05 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Shrikant ji Issue is: Is there really a valid specific epithet augustifolia? Our analysis points perhaps it is not. The meaning of angustifolia was explained by Pankaj ji in his first post in the thread. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of