Thanks Balkar ji, Yes it would be nice to develop something like a bioscience learning society particularly with involvement of 'citizen scientists.' This group Eflora India is itself a good example of how 'citizen scientists' from many streams other than a particular professional designated branch of science (in this case botany?) can come together to help develop their and others understanding of the subject.
:-) On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rakesh Ji Thanks for your thought provoking mail > If we discuss the problems with indian system of education, i think that > will be like finding a needle in well. 5 years back we started a Society > for Promotion of life sciences to raise the issues related with problems of > lifescience students (so called Medical stream students in particularly in > Haryana). we organised many meetings in different district headquarters of > haryana to make people aware about various problems like need of change in > nomenclature of degree, combination of subjects, improvement in syllabi, > system of evaluation and many more. after 4-5 years we have to go to > aikantvas >>>>>.. I think this matter we should discuss via personal mails > not in group. interesting members who wish to give their valuable > suggestion in general or particulars to strengthen the Biological sciences > in India may pls sent to me directly not via group, so that we may prepare > a good document on all suggestion. That we will be sharing with all > Thanks and Wish you a Happy new Year to All > > On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Rakesh Biswas > <rakesh7bis...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Thanks everyone for this very interesting thread on 'education.' >> >> I am currently in Bandhavgarh with Satyendraji and Kay and we were just >> sitting in their tree and bird laden garden having this conversation on >> "the current problems in Indian Education" when i noticed this thread on >> 'how to build a career given the current resources in the "Indian System of >> Education." >> >> Balkar ji's last line of advice to Ankush actually for me highlights an >> important 'problem' with Indian Education. >> >> Getting a good percentage in BSc is unfortunately currently based on a >> student's rote memorization skills rather than his/her ability to engage >> emotionally with his/her subject of interest (correct me if i am wrong)? >> >> I wonder what percentage of Indian students who could have done really >> good research with their critical thinking and discovery based learning >> abilities are unfortunately sidelined because of our current education >> system's fascination with a student's rote memorization skills which is >> essential to getting a good percentage? >> >> :-) >> >> regards, >> >> rakesh >> http://www.linkedin.com/pub/rakesh-biswas/5/893/988 >> >> PS: Also copied in bcc to a few other Indian Educationists to build on >> this thread if possible. Thanks Usha di for the inspiring lines from >> Campbell. I am sure some of our medical students from Kolkata ( who i have >> copied in this email) would love to meet you in Kolkata and learn both >> medicine and botany from you. Satyendra ji was just relating a very >> interesting story about a US based Indian physician-surgeon who came to >> Bandhavgarh and set up a medical camp and to his utter dismay found that >> 80% of the villagers were just complaining of ' body itching' ( which was >> not within his area of expertise) and Satyendraji communicated this to >> Pankaj Oudhia ji (a group member here) who promptly suggested that the >> villagers should rub this herb ('cassia tora' if i remember correctly) >> which is anyway abundantly available in the region. The physician >> communicated 80% of the villagers to rub this herb for itching and when he >> came back from US a year later, Satyendra ji took him again to the >> villagers who thanked the doctor profusely for having suggested the herb as >> their most important problem (that of itching) had been taken care of. This >> could be an interesting illustration of how modern day education systems >> evolving through 'modern day communication' can cut across entrenched >> disciplines and traditions and possibly some day have the power to >> transform our field of education with a resultant improvement on human >> quality of life? :-) >> >> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Agree with Pankaj Ji, Ankush you have good interest in Botany. During >>> Training in Hisar Your Teacher Dr Divya Jain also told me about >>> your interest in Subject. You have to work hard to get Admission in a good >>> University for M.Sc. Botany like DU, PU etc and you will also need good >>> percentage at B.Sc. Level. Our best wishes are with you >>> >>> From: Ushadi micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com> >> Date: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 5:47 AM >> Subject: Re: guidance for future >> >> >> Ankush : >> >> If you are undecided by now.... >> you are not being pushed in one direction by family or friends >> or personal ambition based on other's lives and status . >> Thats a very good sign... a very good sign.. >> >> Joseph Campbell (who was responsible for the ultimate story line and >> characters of the starwars trilogy of Lucas) was a professor in USA of >> Mythology and our collective human wisdom and heritage... used to >> say : follow your bliss... money and success will follow that... >> google lucas, star wars and Joseph campbell...or go to wikipedia and >> get the stories... >> >> to find what is your bliss... (Bliss: = your soul's propensity, >> desires, needs, karmic fulfillment etc) >> I have found that one can take many roads... one or all at the same >> time.. >> >> 1: meditate and pay attention to what god is trying to tell you... >> do not pray ..to ask... keep quiet so you can hear what the universe >> or your own higher self is trying to convey to you... takes patience >> and practice...may take months..but it always works >> >> 2: pay attention to what comes out of your own mouth or pen >> ie what you talk about the most , or write the most >> >> 3: read books .. go to library repeatedly and notice which stacks you >> always end up at >> >> 4: take tests.. there are many personality and eneagram like tests >> that universities give to prospective students... I know Jadavpur >> University in Kolkata gives one... but I dont have access to their >> tests...top secret it seems, but I have seen their real life effects.. >> very good effects... ask around there must be Councillors in your >> part of India who can help... One test on the net is meyer >> briggs ...but it costs to get results back... but you can research >> it ... there are books on this test ... will classify you into a >> line in life and then subclassify expertise that your personality is >> suitable for... I find they are pretty good ... >> >> but as to your own soul's need and desire, only you know... and that >> you only you can know or find out... >> >> 5: take some job... in a field you think you like... see if that gets >> your imagination and enthusiasm going up..good.... otherwise quit and >> move to some fresh field... do it while you are young... two or >> three... jobs in different fields... young age you can be research >> assistant etc... you are bound to find it >> >> Hope you find your path or two >> >> Usha di >> ======== >> >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Yes I agree with Usha mams words. Ankush should do what his heart >>>> says. When I was studying, I think I am the only one of my whole >>>> school batch chose botany. Please remember I am talking about around >>>> over 400 students in one batch. But I remember collecting my first >>>> orchid when I was may be standard 7 or so. At BSc also I had >>>> opportunities for so called better subjects, but i refused and took >>>> botany honors. During MSc every one thought that I will take taxonomy, >>>> but by then I had already realised that there was no good taxo teacher >>>> and I was satisfied with my abilities so I took genetics. Then for PhD >>>> I worked on taxonomy, ecology, morphological development, flowering >>>> phenology, ethnobotany.... I wanted to add more but my respected boss >>>> asked me to leave something for others :))... >>>> So the first point is to chose what your heart says >>>> Second point is to put in all your abilities in your work. There >>>> certainly will be a day when your work will speak for you and you dont >>>> have to speak for your work. >>>> Best wishes >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > Dear Ankush Soon i will send you a Powerpoint Presentation showing >>>> > all best opportunities related to you >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Dec 28, 5:42 pm, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> > Pankaj Ji B SC Medical in Haryana means Graduation in Science with >>>> >> > Botany >>>> >> > Zoology and Chemistry as full subjects with equal weightage in all >>>> 3 >>>> >> > years >>>> >> > of graduation. Environmental studies, Computer Science and English >>>> in >>>> >> > only >>>> >> > first year, hindi or Sanskrit in second year and in final only >>>> botany >>>> >> > chemistry and zoology >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>> >> > <sahanipan...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > B.sc. medical II year wht is that ? Where you a medical student >>>> or >>>> >> > > simple >>>> >> > > graduation? >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > On Wednesday, December 28, 2011, ankush prakash >>>> >> > > <ankushpraka...@gmail.com> >>>> >> > > wrote: >>>> >> > > > Respected members, >>>> >> > > > HAPPY NEW YEAR IN ADVANCE >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > > My self Ankush Prakash. I am a student of B.sc. Medical IInd >>>> >> > > > Year,S.D. >>>> >> > > College,Ambala Cantt. >>>> >> > > > Dear members please guide me what course I would opt after >>>> B.Sc. so >>>> >> > > > that >>>> >> > > I can have a bright future. Should I go for M.Sc. or any other >>>> course. >>>> >> > > > My best subject is BOTANY and I want to go in research field. >>>> >> > > > So please guide me what should I do after B.Sc. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > > Regards, >>>> >> > > > Ankush Prakash >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > -- >>>> >> > > >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> >> > > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>> >> > > Conservation Officer >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > Office: >>>> >> > > Flora Conservation Department >>>> >> > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>> >> > > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > Residence: >>>> >> > > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>> >> > > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >> > >>>> >> > > email: pku...@kbfg.org >>>> >> > > sahanipan...@gmail.com >>>> >> > > pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >>>> >> > > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>>> >> > > +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>>> >> > >>>> >> > -- >>>> >> > Regards >>>> >> > >>>> >> > Dr Balkar Singh >>>> >> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>> >> > Arya P G College, Panipat >>>> >> > Haryana-132103 >>>> >> > 09416262964 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Regards >>>> > >>>> > Dr Balkar Singh >>>> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>> > Arya P G College, Panipat >>>> > Haryana-132103 >>>> > 09416262964 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >>>> Conservation Officer >>>> >>>> Office: >>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> Residence: >>>> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> email: pku...@kbfg.org >>>> sahanipan...@gmail.com >>>> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >>>> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards >>> >>> Dr Balkar Singh >>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>> Haryana-132103 >>> 09416262964 >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Regards > > Dr Balkar Singh > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > Arya P G College, Panipat > Haryana-132103 > 09416262964 >
