Dear Vijayasankar Ji,

I was digging a bit more on *P. niruri* L. and *P. amarus* Schum. & Thonn.

I found a number of papers on medicinal properties of *P. niruri* L.,
published by CSIR, some of those are recent publications -

   1. http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/4539
   2. http://www.csircentral.net/index.php/record/view/18194
   3. without using L. or Linn. -
   http://nopr.niscair.res.in/handle/123456789/3400

*P. niruri* L. in other sites -

   1. http://www.namahjournal.com/doc/Actual/Phyllanthus-vol-19-iss-3.html
   2. http://www.pharmainfo.net/reviews/phyllanthus-niruri
   3.
   
http://www.slideshare.net/AlexanderDecker/11protective-effect-of-phyllanthus-niruri-on-dmba-croton-oil-mediated-carcinogenic-response-and-oxidative-damage-in-accordance-to-histopathological-studies-in-skin-of-mice

At the same time i kept in my mind what i learned in group threads, that *P.
niruri* L. doesn't occur in India, even though it had been mentioned in "THE
USEFUL PLANTS OF INDIA" ( CSIR publication ). So, i searched more on *
Phyllanthus* species -

   1. Google directed me to an ebook, *"Phyllanthus Species: Scientific
   Evaluation and Medicinal Applications" (By Ramadasan Kuttan, K. B.
   Harikumar)* that supports the claim. The same book also describes
*Phyllanthus
   amarus* Schum. & Thonn. I copy a few words -* *".... leaf blade 5-9 x
   2-4 mm, oblong, obtuse at both ends...." = page 26 & 27 =
   
http://books.google.co.in/books?id=ordQCHqPy9gC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=Phyllanthus+niruri+L+species+description&source=bl&ots=i1nPFFuQLy&sig=k06juMKogPFUEK3Puul3nL99k84&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yfF2UOuPB8yqrAfw0IGoCA&ved=0CFIQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Phyllanthus%20niruri%20L%20species%20description&f=false
   2. Another document describes *Phyllanthus spp.* in Tiruchirappalli
   district. I copy a few words on  *Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. &
Thonn. = "....
   stem terete, hispidulous, ... leaf tip rounded..." =
   http://journal-phytology.com/index.php/phyto/article/viewFile/6070/3109


*Phyllanthus amarus* Schum. & Thonn. in -

   1. FoC = Leaves distichous; stipules linear or linear-lanceolate, green;
   petioles ca. 0.5 mm; leaf blade oblong or elliptic-oblong, 3-8 × 2-4.5 mm,
   membranous or thinly papery, base rounded, apex obtuse or rounded and
   often apiculate =
   http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368
   2. FoP = Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but completely
glabrous,foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm), oblong=
   http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368
   3. *Phyllanthus fraternus* Webster in FoP =  leaf-blades elliptic-oblong
   to elliptic-oblanceolate, 5-13 x 1.5-5 mm, obtuse or rounded at apex and
   base =
   http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520

Whom should i follow for the ID of my species? I think my species doesn't
have terete stem, not sure about apices of leaves.

Regards,

surajit





On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 6:55 AM, surajit koley <
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Good morning/evening Vijayasankar Ji,
> Thank you very much.
>
> But, if it is *Phyllanthus amarus* then FoC and FoP both are not much
> reliable source, specially for leaf sizes, more evident in my grass & *
> Sesbania* uploads.
>
> Regards,
>
> surajit
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:25 AM, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Nice pictures Surajit ji!
>> Your visit to the pond might have surprised the young Varanus! Please
>> tell him/her you were clicking *Phyllanthus amarus. *
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Vijayasankar Raman
>> National Center for Natural Products Research
>> University of Mississippi
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, surajit koley <
>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sir,
>>>
>>> Searched for *Phyllanthus niruri* L. and found :-
>>>
>>>    1. ".... There is no confusion regarding *P. niruri because it
>>>    doesn't occur in India*. *All plants which earlier called in that
>>>    name are belong to (and to be called as) P. amarus*, as we all
>>>    know...." =
>>>    https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/uRuNBBRR_3k/discussion
>>>    2. *P. amarus* in FoP = ".... Similar to Phyllanthus fraternus, but
>>>    completely glabrous, *foliage-leaves smaller (3-6 x 1.5-3 mm)*,
>>>    oblong...." =
>>>    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242337368
>>>    3. *P. amarus* in FoC = " ......  leaf blade oblong or
>>>    elliptic-oblong, *3-8 × 2-4.5 mm*.........." =
>>>    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=242337368
>>>    4. " ............ *P. fraternus has 6 tepals* and the
>>>    elliptic/obovate leaves will have a narrowed base....... " =
>>>    https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/1x7grsFDm6Q/discussion
>>>    5. *P. fraternus* in FoP = "........ leaf-blades elliptic-oblong to
>>>    elliptic-oblanceolate, *5-13 x 1.5-5 mm*..." =
>>>    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=242442520
>>>    6. ".... *Phyllanthus fraternus (syn: P. niruri Hook.f. (non Linn.),
>>>    quite distinct from P. amarus in larger leaves, 6 perianth, 6-10 lobed 
>>> disc
>>>    *............ " =
>>>    https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/vFK2qO-sz18/discussion
>>>    7. another group post =
>>>    https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/xpGcxOGpkJI/discussion
>>>    8. another =
>>>    https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/49hDzECkogE/discussion
>>>    9. yet another =
>>>    https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/c_6anbyYgoc/discussion
>>>    10. In FoI =
>>>    http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Gulf%20Leaf-Flower.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Species : UNKNOWN
>>> Habit & Habitat : wild herb, both branched and unbranched, very common
>>> on roadside, waste places; height about 1 foot or more; leaves = 10mm x 5
>>> mm (image no. DSCN1627.jpg); tepals = 5 (image no. DSCN1635.jpg)
>>> Date : 8-Sept-12, 2.00 p.m.
>>> Place : Hooghly
>>>
>>> Well, as i was recording these images a young water 
>>> monitor<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monitor>was waiting for me!
>>>
>>> Thank you & Regards,
>>>
>>> surajit
>>>
>>>  --
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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