Respected Chadwell You are absolutely right. NBPGR is National Bureau of Plant Genetic Resources. Population of India has nearly doubled during the last 50 years. Manali, Shimla and all other small towns in the hills have expanded to forest areas. Vegetation has been cleared for construction as well as for fodder. This has lead to the disappearance of many rare and useful plants. Many of the plants mentioned in Sir Collett's Flora Simlensis are not present today in their reported localities. I am not able to locate the place 'The Chor' mentioned by you.
Regards On Oct 29, 2016 12:16 AM, "C CHADWELL" <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Dear Anil > > I first came across Lilium polyphyllum in Kashmir. My small team in 1983 > camped on a small island in the Lidder river on > the way to Aru from Pahlgam - this lily grew here. The crossing to the > island consisted of a tree trunk. Sadly, just 2 years later > a wooden bridge had been made to allow vehicles across - no sign of the > lily! > > Members of a botanical tour found a good colony of this lily in forest > above Manali and told me of it - I was able to locate this. > Unfortunately, the colony may have expired. There is a great deal of > house building and planting of both apple orchards and > other crops - there were some such fields before. Presumably this is the > explanation. *Cardiocrinum giganteum* was still visible. > > Stewart knew it from N.Pakistan and Kashmir @ 2100-3000m. Even then (some > 50 years back) he observed that possibly due to picking > this lily is nowhere abundant. > > You mention NBPG - is this The National Bureau of Plant Genetic Resources? > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com> > *To:* J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> > *Cc:* chrischadwell...@btinternet.com; efloraofindia < > indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>; Nidhan Singh <nidhansingh...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Friday, 28 October 2016, 19:22 > *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:255124] Re: Hatoo (Narkanda, Shimla, H.P.) > AT OCT2016/12 > > Yes, Garg Ji and Chadwell ji > There are many problems like over grazing, excessive human > interference and development. I have never come across Lilium > polyphyllum till date. A conservation project on this plant was > awarded to NBPG, but they have to return the money as they were unable > to collect the plant from this area. > Shali is another area rich in plant diversity. That is approximately > 50km away from this place. > > Regards > > > On 10/28/16, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Chadwell ji. > > > > On 28 Oct 2016 5:11 pm, "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" < > > chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > >> Another place worth visiting (have any of this group's members botanized > >> there, I wonder) mentioned by Collet is 'The Chor' located at 30 52' and > >> 77 > >> 32' > >> to the South-East of Shimla rises to some 3600m. I did see a book about > >> a > >> survey of this area in a book-shop at Shimla some years back but this > was > >> beyond my tight budget. As Collet says this and Hatugarh (Hatu) are the > >> only elevations in the district on which there is subalpine vegetation. > >> > >> I noted over-grazing on Hatu so some of the plants mentioned as growing > >> there in Collet's time are probably no longer present - just as *Lilium > >> polyphyllum* which is the Frontispiece in 'Flora Simlensis' was once > >> common in Shimla woods but is surely rare or its colonies have been > >> trampled, over-grazed, plucked or its habitat destroyed by construction. > >> > >> And one should not forget Shali 'Peak' which has records for species not > >> recorded elsewhere in the district. > >> > >> On Monday, October 24, 2016 at 6:16:14 PM UTC+1, Anil Thakur wrote: > >> > >>> Hatoo is a place frequently mentioned in Collett's 'FLORA SIMLENSIS'. > >>> It is about 75km away from Shimla (H.P.) on Rampur road and rich in > >>> plant biodiversity. > >>> It was a nice experience to visit Hatoo alongwith Dr. Nidhan Singh and > >>> his students. Although we were quite late as most of the plants had > >>> died, still we got some in our collection. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> With best Regards, > >>> > >>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > >>> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "efloraofindia" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > >> > > > > > -- > With best Regards, > > Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send an email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
