Thanks, Ashwini ji. I know no one knows about this plant better than you with in depth analysis.
On 29-Jan-2018 7:51 PM, "Ashwini Bhatia" <ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com> wrote: > I will like to agree with Saroj ji as the some characteristics such as > blunt leaves, hairy petiole and truncated stigma point to *V. canescens*. > But this is a very confusing species and I am still struggling to establish > the two species found in Dharamshala. If we follow FOC, this could very > well be the *V. pilosa* (FOC doesn't describe *V. canescens*): > > 18. *Viola pilosa* Blume, Catalogus. 57. 1823. > > 匍匐堇菜 pu fu jin cai > > *Viola pogonantha* W. W. Smith; *V. serpens* Wallich ex Gingins; *V. > serpens* subsp. *gurhwalensis* W. Becker;* V. serpens* var. > * pseudoscotophylla* H. Boissieu. > > Herbs perennial, acaulescent or with very short stem. Rhizome erect or > obliquely ascending, 3-5 cm × 1.5-4 mm; internodes conspicuous. Stolon > elongated, slender, glabrous, with evenly scattered leaves. Leaves nearly > basal; *stipules mostly free, brown or green, lanceolate, margin long or > shortly fimbriate-dentate*, apex long acuminate; petioles nearly as long > as blades or lower ones much longer than blades, densely appressed hirsute, > more densely hairy in upper part; *leaf blade greenish on both surfaces, > ovate or narrowly ovate*, 2-6 × 1-3 cm, sparsely white stiffly hairy, > more densely so along veins abaxially, base narrowly and deeply sinuate, > lateral auricles conspicuous, margin densely and shallowly obtusely > dentate, apex caudate-acuminate or acute. *Flowers purplish or white, > medium-sized; pedicels usually exceeding leaves, sparsely puberulous or > subglabrous, 2-bracteolate above middle; bracteoles linear*. Sepals > lanceolate, 6-7.5 × ca. 2.5 mm, apex acute, basal auricles 2-2.5 mm, > outside usually sparsely white puberulous, margin ciliate, apex remotely > and shallowly dentate. Petals oblong-obovate, base narrower, *lateral > ones bearded*, *anterior one shorter*, inside deep-colored veined; spur > saccate, 2-2.5 mm, usually sparsely puberulous; spur of 2 anterior stamens > ca. 1.5 mm, angular. Ovary usually puberulous; *styles clavate, base > slightly geniculate, gradually thickened upward; stigmas ± flat, not > margined, very inconspicuously short beaked in front, with smaller stigma > hole at tip of beak.* Capsule subglobose, 5-10 mm, puberulous or > glabrous. Seeds with dotted protuberances on surface, conspicuously > appendaged on lower lateral side. Fl. Feb-Apr, fr. May-Sep. 2*n* = 20. > > Mountain forests, grasslands, roadsides; 800-3000 m. W Guangxi, Guizhou, > Sichuan, SE Xizang, Yunnan [Afghanistan, Bhutan, India, Indonesia, Kashmir, > Malaysia, Myanmar, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Thailand]. > > *In FRPS (51: 90. 1991), the name Viola canescens Wallich was misapplied > to this species.* > > > The question of stigma shapes and stipules doesn't take us far also. The > truncated stigma in the flower above is *inconspicuously short beaked* as > mentioned in FOC. I am attaching old photos to support this. The stipules > are fimbriate, attaching another photo. Flowers purplish to white is true, > attaching photos. Anterior petal is shorter, see photo. That leaves us with > the question that if this is *V. pilosa* then what distinguishes it from *V. > canescens*. > > > According to Polunin and Stainton, *Viola canescens* is: > > Distinguished by its minutely and densely grey-haired leaves (hence > *canescens*; Latin for white or hoary) and leaf-stalks. Flowers pale > violet and often paler at centre, c. 1cm across, with a short blunt spur; > *sepals > hairy*. *Leaves ovate-heart-shaped to kidney-shaped with a blunt apex*; > blade rather thick, and covered with grey hairs; leaf-stalks with dense > down-curved hairs; *stipules lanceolate, fringed, often brown*. Runners > usually present. Capsules hairy. > > > And *Viola pilosa* is: > > Similar to V. canscens but with lilac flowers, *leaf-blades narrower and > longer, ovate-lanceolate, acute to long-pointed*, with thin white hairs, > or almost hairless above. Flowers 1-1.5cm; upper petals normally with hairs > at the base; *stigma 3-lobed, beaked*. *Stipules entire or toothed, not > fringed*. Capsules hairy or hairless. > > > Following them, the sample in question is *V. canescens*. Referring to > other material such as BSI or stigma shapes, we will have more confusion. > > > *In such cases, which is the authority to follow? Who has the final say? > If the genus has been revised, where can we see the published results?* > > Please advise. > > > Many thanks and regards, > > Ashwini > > > > > > > On 29 January 2018 at 18:05, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Why not *Viola pilosa* Blume >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa> >> ? >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> Date: 15 January 2018 at 23:50 >> Subject: Viola canescens Wall. ??? >> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. 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