Dear Pankaj thank you i love the 1929 Nature report of the meeting or the debate. they were so very open and literate about their subjects.
my real question was how does Pankaj know its a natural hybrid of Calante triplicata and sylvatica (masuca). so now i will answer my own question: 1. Pankaj must know these two orchids occur in the same general vicinity 2. same pollinator visits them 3 Pankaj knows these orchids so well that he recognizes their features in a hybrid and so it behooves someone to follow these plants up and see if fruits develop and subsequent progeny starts a new species? so Prashant you have a big job now. but before heroic efforts of traveling back to munnar etc ..... is this inference correct? usha di On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Natural hybrids are those plants that appear due to hybridization > naturally, which happens when two or more compatible species co-occurrence > in the same habitat and are cross pollinated by similar or same vectors. > Not uncommon in orchids. This is how speciation also occurs, that is, new > species are established. Also occur among animals like one of my friend > worked on natural hybridization between domestic chicken and wild red > jungle fowl in India. > Artificial hybrids are obviously produced by human being by crossing two > different species or even genera. Usually they will register it with the > authority at Royal Horticulture Society for example for orchids, Singapore > Botanic Garden for Gingers etc. > Whether natural or artificial, one crucial issue is if the offsprings of > the hybrids can produce fruits and seeds and if those seeds are able to > produce plants identical to the hybrid parents. In most cases, they are not. > You will be surprised to know that there are only around 28000 orchid > species in the world but around 150,000 - 200,000 orchid hybrids in the > world. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_hybrids some animals > > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 01:36, Ushadi Micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> intriguing phrase: a natural hybrid >> >> what is it >> how does one know or differentiate from a lab created hybrid? >> >> thanks in advance , pankaj >> usha di >> >> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes we already chatted, This i think is a natural hybrid of Calante >>> triplicata and sylvatica (masuca). >>> Thanks for sharing. >>> Pankaj >>> >>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 14:44, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> Hi .. This is Calanthe species. Probably Calanthe sylvatica >>>> Regards >>>> Ravee >>>> >>>> efi page on Calanthe sylvatica >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/orchidaceae/calanthe/calanthe-sylvatica> >>>> with >>>> images. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Prashant Awale <pkaw...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: 8 September 2018 at 14:31 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:304090] ID Request- Munnar-PKA1 >>>> To: indiantreepix <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Friends, >>>> This herb was spotted in Shola forest near Munnar. >>>> Date/Time: 04/09/2018, 3:00PM >>>> Plant Ht: approx. 1 to 2 ft. >>>> >>>> Requesting ID.. >>>> Thanks & Regards >>>> Prashant >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 2975 members & 3,00,000 messages on 25.7.18) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which 1,00,000 >>>> are directly displayed). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>> India'. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ************************************************************ >>> ********************************************************** >>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>> >>> *Office*: >>> >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>> >>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> > > > -- > ************************************************************ > ********************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China > > *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 > > -- Usha di =========== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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