thanks quite a mental jog thats why you are you great thanks again usha di
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> wrote: > Because when I see the characters then I can make out that its not any of > the existing species. So first thought is, it could be a new species. > Second guess with the colour and morphological characters I can guess that > it could be a hybrid. Third question is if hybrid, then who are parents? > All hybrids have mixture of characters from both parents, usually. Then I > know what two species are found in that region and sort out one by one. > On the other hand, if this plant produces fruits and seeds and seeds give > plants same as this one which are able to set seeds and produce plant same > as this, then they can be considered as a new species. > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 11:57, Ushadi Micromini <microminipho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Pankaj >> thank you >> i love the 1929 Nature report of the meeting or the debate. they were so >> very open and literate about their subjects. >> >> my real question was >> how does Pankaj know its a natural hybrid of Calante triplicata and >> sylvatica (masuca). >> >> so now i will answer my own question: >> 1. Pankaj must know these two orchids occur in the same general vicinity >> 2. same pollinator visits them >> 3 Pankaj knows these orchids so well that he recognizes their features in >> a hybrid >> >> and so it behooves someone to follow these plants up and see if fruits >> develop >> and subsequent progeny starts a new species? >> so Prashant you have a big job now. >> >> >> but before heroic efforts of traveling back to munnar etc ..... >> is this inference correct? >> >> usha di >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Natural hybrids are those plants that appear due to hybridization >>> naturally, which happens when two or more compatible species co-occurrence >>> in the same habitat and are cross pollinated by similar or same vectors. >>> Not uncommon in orchids. This is how speciation also occurs, that is, new >>> species are established. Also occur among animals like one of my friend >>> worked on natural hybridization between domestic chicken and wild red >>> jungle fowl in India. >>> Artificial hybrids are obviously produced by human being by crossing two >>> different species or even genera. Usually they will register it with the >>> authority at Royal Horticulture Society for example for orchids, Singapore >>> Botanic Garden for Gingers etc. >>> Whether natural or artificial, one crucial issue is if the offsprings of >>> the hybrids can produce fruits and seeds and if those seeds are able to >>> produce plants identical to the hybrid parents. In most cases, they are not. >>> You will be surprised to know that there are only around 28000 orchid >>> species in the world but around 150,000 - 200,000 orchid hybrids in the >>> world. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetic_hybrids some animals >>> >>> >>> On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 01:36, Ushadi Micromini < >>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> intriguing phrase: a natural hybrid >>>> >>>> what is it >>>> how does one know or differentiate from a lab created hybrid? >>>> >>>> thanks in advance , pankaj >>>> usha di >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:04 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes we already chatted, This i think is a natural hybrid of Calante >>>>> triplicata and sylvatica (masuca). >>>>> Thanks for sharing. >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 at 14:44, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>> >>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>> Hi .. This is Calanthe species. Probably Calanthe sylvatica >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Ravee >>>>>> >>>>>> efi page on Calanthe sylvatica >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/orchidaceae/calanthe/calanthe-sylvatica> >>>>>> with >>>>>> images. >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <pkaw...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Date: 8 September 2018 at 14:31 >>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:304090] ID Request- Munnar-PKA1 >>>>>> To: indiantreepix <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>> This herb was spotted in Shola forest near Munnar. >>>>>> Date/Time: 04/09/2018, 3:00PM >>>>>> Plant Ht: approx. 1 to 2 ft. >>>>>> >>>>>> Requesting ID.. >>>>>> Thanks & Regards >>>>>> Prashant >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 2975 members & 3,00,000 messages on 25.7.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 12,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>> 1,00,000 are directly displayed). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ************************************************************ >>>>> ********************************************************** >>>>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>>>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>>>> >>>>> *Office*: >>>>> >>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>> >>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>> >>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>>>> >>>>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >>>>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>>>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ************************************************************ >>> ********************************************************** >>> *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. >>> *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* >>> >>> *Office*: >>> >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China >>> >>> *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com >>> *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 >>> (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> > > > -- > ************************************************************ > ********************************************************** > *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. > *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* > > *Office*: > > Orchid Conservation Section > > Flora Conservation Department > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R., China > > *email*: pku...@kfbg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com > *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 > > -- Usha di =========== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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