Also send original image of fruit.

On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:45, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pl. check if the pericarp was woody.
> But proportional shape is clearly of *Paulownia fortunei *
>
> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 10:28, Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur <
> anilthakur2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Garg ji, fruit size is also important. In this case, fruits are only 3-4
>> cm long (not more than 6cm as in case of O. fortunii). I have seen other
>> plants as well but not the fruits in that case.
>> Actually, both species were introduced in India by the Forest Research
>> Institute Dehradun. I may be having flowering twigs of other species as
>> well and will report back to you.
>> Regards
>>
>> On Tue, 19 May, 2020, 10:05 AM J.M. Garg, <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On thoroughly checking on net and all our posts, I think *Paulownia
>>> tomentosa *and *Paulownia fortunei *quite confusing. I could not find
>>> the difference between the two on net anywhere except in Flora of China.
>>>
>>> Keys in Flora of China
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177> are
>>> as below:
>>> 4 (1)
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-1> 
>>> *Capsule
>>> oblong to oblong-ellipsoid, 6-10 cm*; pericarp woody, 3-6 mm;
>>> inflorescences subcylindric; corolla ventral plaits inconspicuous; calyx
>>> 2-2.5 cm   4 Paulownia fortunei
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020797>
>>> + *Capsule ovoid, ovoid-ellipsoid, or ellipsoid, 3-5.5 cm*; pericarp
>>> not woody, to 3 mm; inflorescences pyramidal or narrowly conical; corolla
>>> ventral plaits conspicuous; calyx to 2 cm.   (5)
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-5>
>>>
>>> 5 (4)
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-4> 
>>> Capsule
>>> viscid-glandular hairy; calyx lobes as long as or longer than tube, not
>>> glabrescent   1 Paulownia tomentosa
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020800>
>>> + Capsule pubescent when young; calyx lobes shorter than tube, partly
>>> glabrescent.   (6)
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=124177#KEY-1-6>
>>>
>>> Pl see the illustration of both as below:
>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2
>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2
>>>
>>> *From flowers it is very difficult to arriva eat the species. Also
>>> aspect of calyx is also confusing. I think most important character to
>>> separate the two is the fruit*.
>>>
>>> *From fruit shape, I think it should be **Paulownia fortunei *as in
>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3554&flora_id=2
>>> https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/paulownia-fortunei/
>>>
>>> Fruit shape of *Paulownia tomentosa *is different as per
>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=3556&flora_id=2
>>>
>>> http://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/PlantFinder/PlantFinderDetails.aspx?kempercode=a888
>>> https://landscapeplants.oregonstate.edu/plants/paulownia-tomentosa
>>> https://www.invasiveplantatlas.org/subject.html?sub=2426
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2018 at 21:01
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:306297] Re: Paulownia tomentosa
>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Posting some more photographs of this highly beautiful ornamental tree.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Monday, 15 December 2014 22:29:04 UTC+5:30, Anil Thakur wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Respected Members,
>>>>
>>>> It is a beautiful deciduous tree which flowers in March/April.
>>>>
>>>> Botanical name: Paulownia tomentosa
>>>> Common names: Empress tree, Princess tree, Foxglove tree
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur
>>>> Associate Professor (Botany)
>>>> Govt. P.G. College, Solan (H.P.)
>>>> Mob. 94184-50063
>>>>
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