Forwarding for ID Distributed as Malva pamiroalaica ? <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-pamiroalaica> Group discussion at SK112SEP21-2016:ID (google.com) <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/6YddXQANmWQ>
On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 4:11:06 PM UTC+5:30 Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote: > Waiting for this post to be sorted out ! > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:39 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ok. >> Thank you Paradesi ji. >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 10:38 pm, Paradesi Anjaneyulu < >> paradesia...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sorry, Saroj Ji, I haven't experience species level with this genus, >>> With regards. >>> >>> On Thu, 24 Sep 2020 at 20:25, Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Any idea Paradesi Ji ?? >>>> >>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin >>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjB_ajkgILsAhWUzTgGHaQgD_AQFjAEegQIARAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gbif.org%2Fspecies%2F3933195&usg=AOvVaw18BzR72t48xd5JLim5Qzc2> >>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin >>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjB_ajkgILsAhWUzTgGHaQgD_AQFjAAegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Findiabiodiversity.org%2Fspecies%2Fshow%2F251511&usg=AOvVaw0vzJhf_cj7J05Zr_YhV1wY> >>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin >>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjB_ajkgILsAhWUzTgGHaQgD_AQFjABegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.plantsoftheworldonline.org%2Ftaxon%2Furn%3Alsid%3Aipni.org%3Anames%3A561824-1&usg=AOvVaw3nbf7bwXz011zK6Vtix6lS> >>>> A contribution to the vascular plant flora of Lower Ladakh >>>> <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi21NC6goLsAhW8zzgGHRqmBOI4FBAWMAZ6BAgHEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.butbn.cas.cz%2Fladakh%2Fpdf%2FKlimes_Dickore.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2EbmadUmKutM7-fOUiVgLr> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> Forwarded Conversation >>>> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:52 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>> jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Members , >>>> >>>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot in Nubra Valley on 21 August 2014 at >>>> 11000 ft. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:07 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Malva sp. (Malvaceae). >>>> Please compare with images in *eFI* >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta> >>>> . >>>> Elevation suggest M. neglecta. >>>> DSRawat Pantnagar >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following: >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM> >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA> >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 :: >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian >>>> >>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For identification, >>>> >>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join >>>> >>>> our Efloraofindia >>>> >>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>> (largest >>>> >>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> >>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>> (with a species database of more than >>>> >>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>> etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A >>>> >>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:12 AM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: C CHADWELL >>>> Date: 23 September 2016 at 23:25 >>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, a Malva. >>>> >>>> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh. Stewart listed 4 species - >>>> these lists do not fully tally. >>>> >>>> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day) >>>> as a weed in potato and corn fields, >>>> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and >>>> along irrigation channels in one part >>>> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread. >>>> Dickore >>>> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as >>>> *M.parviflora*. >>>> >>>> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj >>>> is not) as commonly >>>> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh, >>>> sometimes appearing to >>>> be self-sown. But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes. >>>> >>>> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in >>>> the 19th Century in Hunza. >>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes do not mention this. >>>> >>>> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in >>>> Ladakh, so not* >>>> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - >>>> which has been confirmed* >>>> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above), >>>> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and* >>>> *M.sinensis.* >>>> >>>> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other >>>> thoughts/contributions to help this process. * >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Chadwell >>>> >>>> >>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> SLOUGH >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SL3 8BE >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> UK >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> http://www.shpa.org.uk/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>; D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, 23 September 2016, 11:22 >>>> *Subject:* Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> Malva sp. (Malvaceae). >>>> Please compare with images in *eFI* >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta> >>>> . >>>> Elevation suggest M. neglecta. >>>> DSRawat Pantnagar >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following: >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM> >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA> >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 :: >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, a Malva. >>>> >>>> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh. Stewart listed 4 species - >>>> these lists do not fully tally. >>>> >>>> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day) >>>> as a weed in potato and corn fields, >>>> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and >>>> along irrigation channels in one part >>>> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread. >>>> Dickore >>>> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as >>>> *M.parviflora*. >>>> >>>> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj >>>> is not) as commonly >>>> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh, >>>> sometimes appearing to >>>> be self-sown. But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes. >>>> >>>> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in >>>> the 19th Century in Hunza. >>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes do not mention this. >>>> >>>> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in >>>> Ladakh, so not* >>>> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - >>>> which has been confirmed* >>>> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above), >>>> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and* >>>> *M.sinensis.* >>>> >>>> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other >>>> thoughts/ contributions to help this process. * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *Best Wishes,Chris Chadwell * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: 21 September 2016 at 18:37 >>>> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" < >>>> jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:10 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> I tried further checking on net. >>>> Did not find any images of *M. pamiroalaica * >>>> >>>> Images of *M.pusilla *looked different at >>>> http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/index_class.php?id=16911 >>>> >>>> Appears close to images of *Malva parviflora *L. as per >>>> http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Malva_parviflora.htm >>>> >>>> Also see Malva sinensis Cav. at >>>> http://taibif.tw/zh/namecode/203690?order=solr_document_3&sort=desc >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: C CHADWELL >>>> Date: 28 September 2016 at 23:54 >>>> Subject: Re: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks for additional images etc. >>>> >>>> Have just spotted that Stewart did list *M.pusilla* in his catalogue >>>> but only as a doubtful species - >>>> recorded from Karachi.... >>>> >>>> I am in agreement that the images from Nubra do not match those (or >>>> others I have seen) of *M.pusilla.* >>>> >>>> The images we have do not show the flowers fully open or fruits, so >>>> that makes things harder. >>>> >>>> It has similarities to the images of *M.sinensis* but I am uncertain >>>> still. >>>> >>>> We have *M.neglecta* in UK. The image I have seen of this does not >>>> match. >>>> >>>> *Do not know what M.pamirolaica is and how to distinguish from >>>> M.neglecta - they presumably must be* >>>> *similar for the comment that it may have been misidentified as >>>> M.neglecta.* >>>> >>>> *Still unsure.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * Best Wishes,Chris Chadwell81 Parlaunt Road >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SLOUGH >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>SL3 >>>> >>>> 8BE >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>UK >>>> >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g>http://www.shpa.org.uk/ >>>> >>>> <http://www.shpa.org.uk/> ------------------------------ From: J.M. Garg >>>> <jmg...@gmail.com> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> Cc: >>>> Saroj >>>> Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>; D.S Rawat <drdsrawat...@gmail.com> Sent: >>>> Wednesday, 28 September 2016, 8:25 Subject: Re: SK112SEP21-2016:ID * >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:32 AM >>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Malva pusilla Sm. >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> ?? >>>> >>>> http://botanicalillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=637906 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:27 PM >>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Malvaceae >>>> >>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin – 2, 13, 18, 19, 22 [2483], 23, 27. Weed in >>>> potato and corn fields, in gardens, trampled dumpy sites in villages, >>>> along >>>> roads, in ditches and along irrigation ca- nals. Previously possibly >>>> misidentified as M. parviflora, see Stewart (1972). ?? >>>> >>>> A contribution to the vascular plant flora of Lower Ladakh >>>> ...www.butbn.cas.cz › ladakh › pdf › Klimes_Dickore >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&ved=2ahUKEwjciZabxNjoAhVTyDgGHQChBHwQFjAQegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.butbn.cas.cz%2Fladakh%2Fpdf%2FKlimes_Dickore.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2EbmadUmKutM7-fOUiVgLr> >>>> >>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin <https://www.gbif.org/species/3933195> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:32 PM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, May be possible. >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> For identification, >>>> >>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join >>>> >>>> our Efloraofindia >>>> >>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>> (largest >>>> >>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>> >>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>> (with a species database of more than >>>> >>>> 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 2,50,000 images are >>>> directly displayed on 31.1.20). >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:55 PM >>>> To: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>, flowers...@gmail.com < >>>> flowers...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>> jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Tabish, >>>> >>>> Please check and do the needful. >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> Forwarded Conversation >>>> Subject: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> ------------------------ >>>> >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 6:52 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>> jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Members , >>>> >>>> Sharing some pictures for ID shot in Nubra Valley on 21 August 2014 at >>>> 11000 ft. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:07 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Malva sp. (Malvaceae). >>>> Please compare with images in *eFI* >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-neglecta> >>>> . >>>> Elevation suggest M. neglecta. >>>> DSRawat Pantnagar >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Looks different from images of M. neglecta at the following: >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight: Malva neglecta from Kashmir-GSJULY41/41 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4X0q1BtI7kM> >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight:: Malva neglecta from Chakrata: NS July 07/07 >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/h0ha5G8ydwA> >>>> Malvaceae Fortnight :: Malva neglecta :: Manali:: PKAJUL12 :: >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/V5LHV6C5AUM> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian >>>> >>>> Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For identification, >>>> >>>> learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join >>>> >>>> our Efloraofindia >>>> >>>> Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>> (largest >>>> >>>> in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> >>>> Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> >>>> (with a species database of more than >>>> >>>> 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>> etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Also author of 'A >>>> >>>> Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:12 AM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Chadwell ji. >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: C CHADWELL >>>> Date: 23 September 2016 at 23:25 >>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, a Malva. >>>> >>>> Dickore & Klimes list 5 species for Ladakh. Stewart listed 4 species - >>>> these lists do not fully tally. >>>> >>>> Klimes records *Malva pamiroalaica* Bijn (not known in Stewart's day) >>>> as a weed in potato and corn fields, >>>> in gardens, trampled 'dumps' in villages, along roads, in ditches and >>>> along irrigation channels in one part >>>> of Ladakh but given the habitats described, presumably widespread. >>>> Dickore >>>> thinks this species may have previously been misidentified as >>>> *M.parviflora*. >>>> >>>> Stewart records *M.sylvestris* (which the plant photographed by Saroj >>>> is not) as commonly >>>> cultivated in flower gardens from the plains and as far inland as Leh, >>>> sometimes appearing to >>>> be self-sown. But this species is not mentioned by Dickore & Klimes. >>>> >>>> Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded in >>>> the 19th Century in Hunza. >>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes do not mention this. >>>> >>>> *My current thoughts are that this genus needs further investigation in >>>> Ladakh, so not* >>>> *in a position to confirm suggested identification of M.neglecta - >>>> which has been confirmed* >>>> *as occurring in Ladakh - as have M.pamiroalaica (see above), >>>> M.parviflora, M.pusilla and* >>>> *M.sinensis.* >>>> >>>> *Shall look into this further when I can but would welcome other >>>> thoughts/contributions to help this process. * >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Wishes, >>>> >>>> >>>> Chris Chadwell >>>> >>>> >>>> 81 Parlaunt Road >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> SLOUGH >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> SL3 8BE >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> UK >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> http://www.shpa.org.uk/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> *To:* efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>; D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, 23 September 2016, 11:22 >>>> *Subject:* Fwd: SK112SEP21-2016:ID >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 2:44 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, "J.M. Garg" < >>>> jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 1:10 PM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> I tried further checking on net. >>>> Did not find any images of *M. pamiroalaica * >>>> >>>> Images of *M.pusilla *looked different at >>>> http://barry.fotopage.ru/gallery/index_class.php?id=16911 >>>> >>>> Appears close to images of *Malva parviflora *L. as per >>>> http://www.iewf.org/weedid/Malva_parviflora.htm >>>> >>>> Also see Malva sinensis Cav. at >>>> http://taibif.tw/zh/namecode/203690?order=solr_document_3&sort=desc >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:33 AM >>>> To: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:32 AM >>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Malva pusilla Sm. >>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/81+Parlaunt+Road+%C2%A0+SLOUGH+SL3+8BE+UK?entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> ?? >>>> >>>> http://botanicalillustrations.org/species.php?id_species=637906 >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 3:27 PM >>>> To: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Malvaceae >>>> >>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin – 2, 13, 18, 19, 22 [2483], 23, 27. Weed in >>>> potato and corn fields, in gardens, trampled dumpy sites in villages, >>>> along >>>> roads, in ditches and along irrigation ca- nals. Previously possibly >>>> misidentified as M. parviflora, see Stewart (1972). ?? >>>> >>>> A contribution to the vascular plant flora of Lower Ladakh >>>> ...www.butbn.cas.cz › ladakh › pdf › Klimes_Dickore >>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=17&ved=2ahUKEwjciZabxNjoAhVTyDgGHQChBHwQFjAQegQIBxAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.butbn.cas.cz%2Fladakh%2Fpdf%2FKlimes_Dickore.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2EbmadUmKutM7-fOUiVgLr> >>>> >>>> Malva pamiroalaica Iljin <https://www.gbif.org/species/3933195> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 12:32 PM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: efloraofindia <indian...@googlegroups.com>, D.S Rawat < >>>> drdsrawat...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Yes, May be possible. >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:22 PM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: flowers...@gmail.com <flowers...@gmail.com>, efloraindia < >>>> indian...@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> It does look like >>>> * Malva verticillata * >>>> See the images and herbaria here: >>>> >>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:561971-1 >>>> It is found in the Himalayas too. Has fascicled pinkish flowers. >>>> Tabish >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 11:40 PM >>>> To: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraindia < >>>> indian...@googlegroups.com>, flowers...@gmail.com <flowers...@gmail.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> No Tabish, latest suggestion is Malva pamiroalaica Iljin . Please >>>> check the mail. >>>> Thank you. >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> -- >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 12:00 AM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraindia < >>>> indian...@googlegroups.com>, flowers...@gmail.com <flowers...@gmail.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Saroj, >>>> I did go through the mail. However, I could not find how Malva >>>> verticillata has been ruled out. All I could see is this: >>>> "Stewart also lists *M.verticillata* - an erect field weed, recorded >>>> in the 19th Century in Hunza. >>>> Again, Dickore & Klimes do not mention this." >>>> Is there something more that I missed? >>>> Tabish >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:13 PM >>>> To: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>, efloraindia < >>>> indian...@googlegroups.com>, flowers...@gmail.com <flowers...@gmail.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> M. verticillata images in the net showing erect plants whereas this one >>>> is something like runner >>>> which looks matching with Malva pamiroalaica Iljin and also >>>> mentioned recorded in Ladakh >>>> according link above . >>>> This is my opinion! >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:56 PM >>>> To: Saroj Kasaju <kasaj...@gmail.com> >>>> Cc: Tabish <tab...@gmail.com>, efloraindia <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> I find Malva verticillata >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/malvaceae/malva/malva-verticillata> >>>> to >>>> be different as per images herein. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/dc3eaf20-6c12-4ac1-b2c8-d5e10c72b176n%40googlegroups.com.
