Ok, I agree as the image is by Stainton, John David Adam On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 14:41, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Please compare fifth image of this link > https://www.gbif.org/species/5402666 with > my image . > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Sun, Nov 29, 2020 at 10:18 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> As already discussed in detail in this thread, it should be Synotis >> vagans >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/senecioneae/synotis/synotis-vagans> >> only >> as per details and references herein. >> Synotis triligulata >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/senecioneae/synotis/synotis-triligulata> >> looks >> different as per images and references herein. >> >> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 18:43, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Some expert from China has validated as Synotis triligulata ! >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:41 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I guess you are correct Mr. Garg ! >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:28 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On further checking, it is seen that it should be Synotis vagans as >>>>> per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5402670> >>>>> specimens as below: >>>>> >>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fmediaphoto.mnhn.fr%2Fmedia%2F1444280101838QL5q6KNKRT9cqNPQ >>>>> >>>>> https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fsweetgum.nybg.org%2Fimages3%2F551%2F958%2F00259565.jpg >>>>> https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/575084270 >>>>> >>>>> For *Synotis vagans*, Flora of Bhutan says: >>>>> Similar to *S. triligulata *but glabrous; leaves narrowly ovate. 7- >>>>> 12 >< 2.5- 4cm. rounded at base. denticulate:* petioles up to 10mm*: >>>>> *capitula >>>>> in axillary corymbs*; phyllaries 8. glabrous;* ray flowers c 4-5*. >>>>> corolla tube 3mm; ligules 4 >< 1.5mm: *disc flowers 5——6: *pappus 7mm. >>>>> >>>>> For *Synotis triligulata* (Buchanan-Hamilton ex D. Don) C. Jeffrey & >>>>> Y. L. Chen, Flora of China >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097806> >>>>> says, *petiole 1-2 cm,* c*apitula minutely radiate,* *very numerous, >>>>> arranged in lax axillary and terminal rounded compound corymbs;* Ray >>>>> florets 3 or 4; Disk florets 3 or 4; >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 09:59, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> But Flora of China >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097809> >>>>>> says Capitula minutely radiate, numerous, arranged in terminal compound >>>>>> corymbs; Ray floret 1; Disk florets 2 or 3; >>>>>> So it is not *Senecio acuminata *also. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 09:17, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Keys from Flora of Bhutan at Synotis >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/senecioneae/synotis> >>>>>>> leads >>>>>>> me to *Senecio acuminata *as per specimen >>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Frepo.rbge.org.uk%2Fimage_server.php%3Fkind%3D1500%26path_base64%3DL2hlcmJhcml1bV9zcGVjaW1lbl9zY2Fucy9FMDAvMjQxLzQwMS82MDg1NzAuanBn> >>>>>>> in GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=5402683>, >>>>>>> FoC illustration >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121714&flora_id=2> >>>>>>> Flora >>>>>>> of China >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097809> >>>>>>> Checklist of Nepal >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242348150> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks different from closer species *Synotis tetrantha* >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097791> >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> per FoC illustration >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121703&flora_id=2> >>>>>>> GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/species/5402680> Checklist of Nepal >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=242425527> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:59, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I checked POWO, GBIF and CoL. They are not showing distribution in >>>>>>>> Nepal >>>>>>>> but only S.himalayas ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 6:12 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How can you be so sure with so many species in Checklist of Nepal >>>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/browse.aspx?flora_id=110&start_taxon_id=130085> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:51, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Unless it is new to Nepal! >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 6:04 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As per keys in Reinstatement of the Sino-Himalayan species >>>>>>>>>>> Senecio pentanthus (Asteraceae, Senecioneae) >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiazaSI9pHoAhUPH7cAHQXJB-wQFjAAegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biotaxa.org%2FPhytotaxa%2Farticle%2Fview%2Fphytotaxa.292.3.5&usg=AOvVaw1el5fQTYFQ1lChWKhAcGB2> >>>>>>>>>>> MING TANG, CHEN REN & QIN-ER YANG - Phytotaxa 292 (3): 253–261 >>>>>>>>>>> (2017), Capitula >>>>>>>>>>> minutely radiate in Synotis triligulata. But it is having quite >>>>>>>>>>> big ray florets (Capitula radiate). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 14:56, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have crossed checked with Dr. Maan Rokaya also and he has >>>>>>>>>>>> validated as >>>>>>>>>>>> Senecio triligulata i.e., Synotis triligulata. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:04 pm, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Gargji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Distribution to Nepal is not mentioned in any links except in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the enclosed journal and >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> corolla yellowish-white in this sp. whereas in my sp. it is >>>>>>>>>>>>> purely dark yellow. As such, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I could not decide. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:25 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Saroj ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not *Synotis triligulata *as per keys in MS March, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2020/02 Senecio sp. for ID >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/O0oIQ_NJ04A> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from Reinstatement of the Sino-Himalayan species Senecio >>>>>>>>>>>>>> pentanthus (Asteraceae, Senecioneae) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiazaSI9pHoAhUPH7cAHQXJB-wQFjAAegQIBhAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.biotaxa.org%2FPhytotaxa%2Farticle%2Fview%2Fphytotaxa.292.3.5&usg=AOvVaw1el5fQTYFQ1lChWKhAcGB2> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> MING TANG, CHEN REN & QIN-ER YANG - Phytotaxa 292 (3): 253–261 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2017) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 at 13:34 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Synotis triligulata (Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> C.Jeffrey & Y.L.Chen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Godawari >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 8 January 2020 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 2065m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habitat: Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syn: Senecio triligulatus Buch.-Ham. ex D.Don >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-group >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each >>>>>>>>>>>>>> image. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google >>>>>>>>>>> e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> >>>>>>>>>>> (largest >>>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>>> 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also >>>>>>>>>>> use them >>>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) >>>>>>>>> or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use >>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than >>>>>>> a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>>> etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for >>>>>>> free >>>>>>> as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>>> of India'. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>> >>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>>> >>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>>> etc. >>>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds >>>>>> of India'. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>> more than 2,00,000 images are directly displayed on 30.8.19). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>> >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>>> India'. >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFBOYf6-uATYG73BC88nTxd9-QNbdWk9bPgXMi8DJYoCVA%40mail.gmail.com.
