Due to genus keys at Flora of China <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=10199>, insertion of stamen becomes very important. Stamens are inserted together in a club like stub above the bottom in Tarenaya hassleriana <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/tarenaya/cleome-hassleriana> , while these are inserted in the bottom in Cleoserrata speciosa <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/cleoserrata/cleome-speciosa> . So it is C.speciosa.
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 at 11:33, 'kd_...@rediffmail.com' via eFloraofIndia < indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Dear Garg Sir > > I do not agree with you Sir. After observation of my new specimen > collected on 22.04.24 ( uploaded) from the same place from where I > collected my earlier uploaded specimen . Observation of my newly uploaded > specimen shows some diagnostic characters i.e. 1. presence of nodal > spines[Image 4,5] (absent in *Cleoserrata* > <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=317305>) > i.e. one pair of stipular spine at the base of each petiole of the leaf > and also a few spines are also found in the petiole.2. Leaflet 7 [image > 2,3](5-9 in *Cleoserrata)* 3. Androgynophore absent[Image 6](present in > *Cleoserrata)*. 4. stamen 04, purple[Image 6]; only gynophore > present[Image 6]. From this observation it is concluded that my specimen > uploaded today and earlier are *Cleome houtteana* Schltdl.(=*Tarenaya > hassleriana*) not *Cleoserrata speciosa* . So please validate. > > With regard > > Karuna Kanta Das > > On Thursday 18 April 2024 at 11:30:46 UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: > >> No it is >> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/16/cleome-speciosa/ only. >> As per efi thread >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/6gqrmwdWyHE> : >> >> Stamen colour purple in *Tarenaya hassleriana* >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/tarenaya/cleome-hassleriana> >> & green in *Cleoserrata speciosa* >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/cleoserrata/cleome-speciosa> >> Stamens are inserted together in a club-like stub above the bottom in >> *Tarenaya >> hassleriana* >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/tarenaya/cleome-hassleriana> >> , while these are inserted in the bottom in *Cleoserrata speciosa* >> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/cl/cleomaceae/cleoserrata/cleome-speciosa> >> . >> >> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024 at 13:32, 'kd_...@rediffmail.com' via eFloraofIndia < >> indian...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> I think this species is not *Cleoserrata speciosa** . *It is *Cleome >>> houtteana *Schltdl (=*Cleome hassleriana* Chodat) . Presence of one >>> pair of stipular spine at the base of each petiole of the leaf and spines >>> in the midrib of abaxial surface of leaflets is prominent ; flower pink to >>> whitish in colour (after examination of the species). In Assamese it is >>> known as Siyalkatahiya. So please validate. >>> With regard >>> Karuna Kanta Das >>> >>> On Saturday 2 February 2013 at 11:48:09 UTC+5:30 J.M. Garg wrote: >>> >>>> A reply: >>>> "I agree with Vijaysankar ji.It seems to be Cleome speciosa." from >>>> Bimal ji. >>>> >>>> On 1 February 2013 13:25, J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Both of this and the white-flowered form look like *Cleome speciosa* >>>>> (now* Cleoserrata* *speciosa*) to me. Please check. >>>>> Very nice pictures! >>>>> Regards >>>>> Vijayasankar Raman >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Efi site link for this species i.e. *Cleome speciosa* : >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/capparaceae/cleoserrata/cleome-speciosa >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Karuna Das <kd_...@rediffmail.com> >>>>> Date: 24 January 2013 20:42 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:144656] Cleome gynandra L. from Kamrup >>>>> district, Assam >>>>> To: indiantreepix <indian...@googlegroups.com> >>>>> Cc: kd_dkc <kd_...@rediffmail.com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> Attached images are *Cleome gynandra* *L.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Date : 24.01.2013 >>>>> >>>>> Location: Kamrup district, Assam >>>>> >>>>> Family : *Cleomaceae* >>>>> >>>>> Genus & species : *Cleome gynandra* *L.* >>>>> >>>>> Habitat: Grows wild on roadside near ditches >>>>> >>>>> Habit : Erect, undershrub. 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