Dear friends, It is good to note the frank opinion of Bhagyashri ji (aka Madhuri ji).
My wanting to put the Google Forms was to save the immense and harrowing trouble that the coordinators would face. Specially because our group is very active !! Google Groups, and for that matter any of the online groups, are *facilities provided* by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc ... there are different flavours too ... for instance, Facebook too has concept of Groups. But our group is already established with Google Groups. Since this Group activity is *not on a "hosted site"* there is is no role of software team who can help us with solutions. (I see that you are now aware of this point). Laymen like us will have to smartly make use of facilities provided by Google, or even other organization's, if it serves our purpose. To make it simpler, the form could have had multiple type-in fields. That is to say, if someone wants to nominate for one X person, Y number of best photographs, the form could be accordingly made. BUT, the difficulty again shifts to the coordinators. At the backstage, the data would get haphazardly populated ... that is, A person may put 1 entry, B may put 10, C may 3 .. and so on. To sort and collate will be again added work to the coordinators. Present solution is best suited to the nominator as well as the coordinator. BUT if every member insists, we will have to re-think (OR re-design the form) to make our efforts simpler. For this time, requesting everyone to come forward and cast at least single entry for each: Best Photograph and Best Set of Photographs. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Gurcharanji > I am sorry that I have not been able to put across my point properly. I > assumed that there is a software development team which manages > efloraofindia group. > Based on this assumption I proposed that they make a small software which > would extract all the required info automatically in a matter of few seconds > forget minutes. I had no intention or thought that someone type all this > huge data. I was thinking how to save your time and make things easy for > you. > I agree that the system devised by Dineshji is excellent and ideal. > Regards > Bhagyshri > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Madhuri ji >> The present system is most ideal one. You need not nominate all. Do it for >> the ones which you consider worth nominating. All different people nominate >> and the data goes into one file at the end of the month to collate. If we >> agree to your suggestion (in fact we had decided like that till Dinesh ji >> came to our rescue) and there are thousands of mail who will go through all >> mails to know every nomination, put them in one file. It may take 5-6 days >> for one man. In present situation the data goes into file simultaneously. >> >> Surely you won't like us to work for five days if the same thing can be >> done within half an hour. Let us try to understand and appreciate technology >> that simplifies our efforts >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am trying to add the nominations for best Pic and best set of pics. I >>> have many to add and its getting tiring is my frank opinion. Due to fatigue >>> I may refrain from adding more and inadvertently do injustice to some. I >>> think this may happen to many. >>> >>> Thinking about this I feel the following >>> >>> 1.Can we have to sub emailids for eflora one as efloraofindia_bestpic & >>> efloraofindia_bestset >>> >>> 2. Whenever a member comes across a good pic/good set he /she should just >>> forward it to the respective email addresses >>> >>> 3.The software development team I am sure can pick up all the necessary >>> info from these forwarded msgs like date,subject line, from whom etc for >>> analysis >>> >>> 4. If this is possible for the software development team the procedure >>> will be much easier for the voter and also for statistical analysis team >>> >>> 5. The only problem will arise when we select best pic from a set >>> I do not know how to solve this problem >>> >>> Regards >>> Bhagyashri >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks a Lot Sir !!!!!! >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes of course, why not >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ya Good question Bhagyashri Ji!!!!!! >>>>>> I was also thinking on the same line !!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a question >>>>>>> Can a member nominate himself/herself? >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Bhagyashri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In reply to query by Giby ji >>>>>>>> The mail carrying the photographs should have been uploaded this >>>>>>>> month. Photographs uploaded in previous months but resurfaced in this >>>>>>>> month, >>>>>>>> or thread carried to present month are not eligible for nomination. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These forms will be received by you just as normally you would >>>>>>>>> receive any post from eFI. >>>>>>>>> *These are nothing but Usha di's forms which are converted into >>>>>>>>> Google Forms.* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Google Form collates the responses received from the members >>>>>>>>> and will take the burden off the coordinators (Gurcharan ji and Usha >>>>>>>>> di) of >>>>>>>>> assembling the responses in a logical manner. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tomorrow among all the regular posts of eFI, please expect to find >>>>>>>>> two posts from me -- >>>>>>>>> 1) Best Photograph of the month of Sep 2011 >>>>>>>>> 2) Best Set of Photographs in the month of Sep 2011 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Re-iterating what Usha di has already said: *Please keep ready the >>>>>>>>> following information*: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *For the person being nominated for the best photograph*: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Filename of the photograph (that what is seen as the name of >>>>>>>>> the attached photograph) >>>>>>>>> 2. Name of the person >>>>>>>>> 3. Post number OR Link to the post >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *For the person being nominated for best set of photographs*: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Name of the person >>>>>>>>> 2. Post number OR Link to the post >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *What is Post number OR Link to the post* ? >>>>>>>>> 1) *If you are using your favourite webmail*, please lookup in the >>>>>>>>> subject line of the post; you will find the Post Number similar to >>>>>>>>> this: >>>>>>>>> *[efloraofindia:XXXXX]* copy-paste it into your notes >>>>>>>>> 2) *If you are using our Google Group's page* at >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/indiantreepix ... >>>>>>>>> lookup at the top, the words "Link to this topic" OR the icon seeming >>>>>>>>> like a >>>>>>>>> horizontal 8 ... click on it ... copy-paste the link into your notes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Happy nominating !! ... remember you can nominate any number of >>>>>>>>> photographs OR set of photographs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear friends >>>>>>>>>> After discussion in the moderator Group it has been decided that >>>>>>>>>> we will allow multiple voting in each category. Each member can >>>>>>>>>> nominate >>>>>>>>>> more than one photograph/set of photographs, there being no limit to >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> number of nominations a member can make. This decision has been >>>>>>>>>> taken for >>>>>>>>>> two reasons: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 1. This being first month of this selection we do not know how >>>>>>>>>> many members will vote, and in case people vote for different >>>>>>>>>> photographs/sets, and we have several with single vote and none with >>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>> than one vote, selection would be impossible. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. This month has seen unprecedented upload of high quality >>>>>>>>>> photographs and even I found impossible to select one, without >>>>>>>>>> ignoring >>>>>>>>>> others. With choice to nominate more than one, I think we can do >>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>> justice to all members with quality photographs. The one getting >>>>>>>>>> highest >>>>>>>>>> votes will be the winner in each category. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So please go ahead and vote as many times as you want, *BUT NOT >>>>>>>>>> NOMINATION OF SAME PHOTOGRAPH/SET TWICE*. You may nominate as >>>>>>>>>> many different photographs/sets as you like. You will have to fill >>>>>>>>>> up form >>>>>>>>>> separately for each nomination in a particular category. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *FORMS WILL BE UPLOADED BY DINESH JI AT MIDNIGHT AND VOTING WOULD >>>>>>>>>> CLOSE ON OCTOBER 4 AT 11 A M* >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya < >>>>>>>>>> balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dinesh ji and Gurcharan Ji for making job easy >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members >>>>>>>>>>>> Courtesy Dinesh ji, your job of nominations has been made much >>>>>>>>>>>> easier. He will upload the forms midnight so that you can start >>>>>>>>>>>> using it >>>>>>>>>>>> immediately (or wait for all uploads till 11.00 on October 1). >>>>>>>>>>>> There will be >>>>>>>>>>>> two separate forms, one for nominating best photograph of the >>>>>>>>>>>> month and one >>>>>>>>>>>> for nominating best set of photographs for the month. This >>>>>>>>>>>> facility will >>>>>>>>>>>> remain open till 11.00 a m on October 4, to provide three full >>>>>>>>>>>> days for >>>>>>>>>>>> nominations. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *FINAL RULES FOR VOTING WILL BE NOTIFIED IN THE EVENING TODAY * >>>>>>>>>>>> *-- >>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Balkar Arya < >>>>>>>>>>>> balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Sir we will participate. a very Good initiative >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is time to make your decision for the best photograph >>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded during this month, and also the best set of photographs >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighted the best identifying features of that plant. You may >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine photographs being uploaded in coming days up to 30th of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> September >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and send your nominations to me and Ushadi between October 1 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the category, post number as it appears in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each member is allowed two nominations: one each for *Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>> photograph of the month* and *best set of photographs for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> month*. Kindly send these mails to me (singh...@gmail.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and Ushadi Micromini (microminipho...@gmail.com) and not to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope maximum number of members will participate in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> contest. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>> Haryana-132103 >>>> 09416262964 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >
