Dear All: Gurcharanji and Dineshji.... I have looked at the forms a few times... and it a goof form... putting all data in one form which updates itself is a good thing... if all memebers had voted for 10 to 20 people I would be in for a long haul ... so these spreadsheets are good..
It ultimately would save a lot of effort... esp if everybody voted... as such it seems a few have voted for a few.... FOR any new venture there is a vetting period... like a pilot project... let this be our pilot project.. a spread sheet can always be changed, the formulas edited /amended etc... Another thing could be points system... every body would put a score of say 1 to 10 ... than adding up the points and averaging would be easy... I don't understand self nominating... every body likes their own baby... everyone thinks their own baby that they created is the most beautiful... whether the world agrees or not... But since Gurcharanji has agreed to it... I won't object, but thats a bit weird to my sensibilities... none of the world class camera clubs I have belonged to or still do, none has ever nominated himself or herself... even Ansel Admas never nominated himself... but ...times and people and country is different... anyway no matter... let it be... lets have this competition and then revisit the process, in a week' s time... I just came home... its almost 11 pm... don't I have till tomorrow to vote....? ie the 3rd of october? I am dead tired emotionally and physically ... goodnite. Usha di ============ usha On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:36 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Madhuri ji > Perhaps we have to appreciate that the whole website, huge database and its > management is a tremendous task that could be done only through full time > involvement of Garg ji and Dinesh. Organising the whole website and > providing links to all mails in our archives is a job which only they could > have done. Perhaps more and more people have to volunteer for numerous jobs > of the Group like updating website, coordinating monthly episodes, > resurfacing of mails, etc. Unfortunately not many people are coming forward > for these responsibilities, with both Garg ji and Dinesh ji bearing all > pressure of load. When I was on visit to Kashmir, the work of resurfacing > suffered for two months, and I am now trying to cope up to make up the lag > of uploading. With more and more people getting involved, the group can > progress a lot. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you Dineshji for your response I was not aware that we do not have a >> software team support. >> I am sorry to have made the suggestion . But I hope you understand that I >> was not aware of this because managing such a huge group activity is really >> difficult. >> Regards >> Bhagyashri >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Dear friends, >>> >>> It is good to note the frank opinion of Bhagyashri ji (aka Madhuri ji). >>> >>> My wanting to put the Google Forms was to save the immense and harrowing >>> trouble that the coordinators would face. >>> Specially because our group is very active !! >>> >>> Google Groups, and for that matter any of the online groups, are *facilities >>> provided* by Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, etc ... there are different >>> flavours too ... for instance, Facebook too has concept of Groups. >>> But our group is already established with Google Groups. >>> >>> Since this Group activity is *not on a "hosted site"* there is is no >>> role of software team who can help us with solutions. (I see that you are >>> now aware of this point). >>> Laymen like us will have to smartly make use of facilities provided by >>> Google, or even other organization's, if it serves our purpose. >>> >>> >>> To make it simpler, the form could have had multiple type-in fields. >>> That is to say, if someone wants to nominate for one X person, Y number >>> of best photographs, the form could be accordingly made. >>> >>> BUT, the difficulty again shifts to the coordinators. >>> At the backstage, the data would get haphazardly populated ... that is, A >>> person may put 1 entry, B may put 10, C may 3 .. and so on. >>> To sort and collate will be again added work to the coordinators. >>> >>> Present solution is best suited to the nominator as well as the >>> coordinator. >>> >>> BUT if every member insists, we will have to re-think (OR re-design the >>> form) to make our efforts simpler. >>> >>> >>> For this time, requesting everyone to come forward and cast at least >>> single entry for each: Best Photograph and Best Set of Photographs. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards. >>> Dinesh >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> @Gurcharanji >>>> I am sorry that I have not been able to put across my point properly. I >>>> assumed that there is a software development team which manages >>>> efloraofindia group. >>>> Based on this assumption I proposed that they make a small software >>>> which would extract all the required info automatically in a matter of few >>>> seconds forget minutes. I had no intention or thought that someone type all >>>> this huge data. I was thinking how to save your time and make things easy >>>> for you. >>>> I agree that the system devised by Dineshji is excellent and ideal. >>>> Regards >>>> Bhagyshri >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Madhuri ji >>>>> The present system is most ideal one. You need not nominate all. Do it >>>>> for the ones which you consider worth nominating. All different people >>>>> nominate and the data goes into one file at the end of the month to >>>>> collate. >>>>> If we agree to your suggestion (in fact we had decided like that till >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> ji came to our rescue) and there are thousands of mail who will go through >>>>> all mails to know every nomination, put them in one file. It may take 5-6 >>>>> days for one man. In present situation the data goes into file >>>>> simultaneously. >>>>> >>>>> Surely you won't like us to work for five days if the same thing can be >>>>> done within half an hour. Let us try to understand and appreciate >>>>> technology >>>>> that simplifies our efforts >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to add the nominations for best Pic and best set of pics. >>>>>> I have many to add and its getting tiring is my frank opinion. Due to >>>>>> fatigue I may refrain from adding more and inadvertently do injustice to >>>>>> some. I think this may happen to many. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thinking about this I feel the following >>>>>> >>>>>> 1.Can we have to sub emailids for eflora one as efloraofindia_bestpic >>>>>> & efloraofindia_bestset >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Whenever a member comes across a good pic/good set he /she should >>>>>> just forward it to the respective email addresses >>>>>> >>>>>> 3.The software development team I am sure can pick up all the >>>>>> necessary info from these forwarded msgs like date,subject line, from >>>>>> whom >>>>>> etc for analysis >>>>>> >>>>>> 4. If this is possible for the software development team the procedure >>>>>> will be much easier for the voter and also for statistical analysis team >>>>>> >>>>>> 5. The only problem will arise when we select best pic from a set >>>>>> I do not know how to solve this problem >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Bhagyashri >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Balkar Arya <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks a Lot Sir !!!!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes of course, why not >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Balkar Arya >>>>>>>> <balkara...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ya Good question Bhagyashri Ji!!!!!! >>>>>>>>> I was also thinking on the same line !!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Madhuri Raut <itii...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have a question >>>>>>>>>> Can a member nominate himself/herself? >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Bhagyashri >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In reply to query by Giby ji >>>>>>>>>>> The mail carrying the photographs should have been uploaded this >>>>>>>>>>> month. Photographs uploaded in previous months but resurfaced in >>>>>>>>>>> this month, >>>>>>>>>>> or thread carried to present month are not eligible for nomination. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>>>>>>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> These forms will be received by you just as normally you would >>>>>>>>>>>> receive any post from eFI. >>>>>>>>>>>> *These are nothing but Usha di's forms which are converted into >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Forms.* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The Google Form collates the responses received from the members >>>>>>>>>>>> and will take the burden off the coordinators (Gurcharan ji and >>>>>>>>>>>> Usha di) of >>>>>>>>>>>> assembling the responses in a logical manner. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tomorrow among all the regular posts of eFI, please expect to >>>>>>>>>>>> find two posts from me -- >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Best Photograph of the month of Sep 2011 >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Best Set of Photographs in the month of Sep 2011 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Re-iterating what Usha di has already said: *Please keep ready >>>>>>>>>>>> the following information*: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *For the person being nominated for the best photograph*: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Filename of the photograph (that what is seen as the name >>>>>>>>>>>> of the attached photograph) >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Name of the person >>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Post number OR Link to the post >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *For the person being nominated for best set of photographs*: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Name of the person >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Post number OR Link to the post >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *What is Post number OR Link to the post* ? >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) *If you are using your favourite webmail*, please lookup in >>>>>>>>>>>> the subject line of the post; you will find the Post Number >>>>>>>>>>>> similar to this: >>>>>>>>>>>> *[efloraofindia:XXXXX]* copy-paste it into your notes >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) *If you are using our Google Group's page* at >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/indiantreepix ... >>>>>>>>>>>> lookup at the top, the words "Link to this topic" OR the icon >>>>>>>>>>>> seeming like a >>>>>>>>>>>> horizontal 8 ... click on it ... copy-paste the link into your >>>>>>>>>>>> notes. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Happy nominating !! ... remember you can nominate any number of >>>>>>>>>>>> photographs OR set of photographs. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear friends >>>>>>>>>>>>> After discussion in the moderator Group it has been decided >>>>>>>>>>>>> that we will allow multiple voting in each category. Each member >>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>> nominate more than one photograph/set of photographs, there being >>>>>>>>>>>>> no limit >>>>>>>>>>>>> to the number of nominations a member can make. This decision has >>>>>>>>>>>>> been taken >>>>>>>>>>>>> for two reasons: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. This being first month of this selection we do not know how >>>>>>>>>>>>> many members will vote, and in case people vote for different >>>>>>>>>>>>> photographs/sets, and we have several with single vote and none >>>>>>>>>>>>> with more >>>>>>>>>>>>> than one vote, selection would be impossible. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. This month has seen unprecedented upload of high quality >>>>>>>>>>>>> photographs and even I found impossible to select one, without >>>>>>>>>>>>> ignoring >>>>>>>>>>>>> others. With choice to nominate more than one, I think we can do >>>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>>> justice to all members with quality photographs. The one getting >>>>>>>>>>>>> highest >>>>>>>>>>>>> votes will be the winner in each category. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So please go ahead and vote as many times as you want, *BUT >>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT NOMINATION OF SAME PHOTOGRAPH/SET TWICE*. You may nominate >>>>>>>>>>>>> as many different photographs/sets as you like. You will have to >>>>>>>>>>>>> fill up >>>>>>>>>>>>> form separately for each nomination in a particular category. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *FORMS WILL BE UPLOADED BY DINESH JI AT MIDNIGHT AND VOTING >>>>>>>>>>>>> WOULD CLOSE ON OCTOBER 4 AT 11 A M* >>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:09 PM, Balkar Arya < >>>>>>>>>>>>> balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Dinesh ji and Gurcharan Ji for making job easy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Courtesy Dinesh ji, your job of nominations has been made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much easier. He will upload the forms midnight so that you can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it immediately (or wait for all uploads till 11.00 on October >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1). There will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be two separate forms, one for nominating best photograph of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the month and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one for nominating best set of photographs for the month. This >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> facility will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remain open till 11.00 a m on October 4, to provide three full >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> days for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nominations. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *FINAL RULES FOR VOTING WILL BE NOTIFIED IN THE EVENING >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TODAY * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *-- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Balkar Arya < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Sir we will participate. a very Good initiative >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Gurcharan Singh < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear members >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is time to make your decision for the best photograph >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploaded during this month, and also the best set of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photographs which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> highlighted the best identifying features of that plant. You >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> examine photographs being uploaded in coming days up to 30th >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of September >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and send your nominations to me and Ushadi between October 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to 3, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioning the category, post number as it appears in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subject line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Each member is allowed two nominations: one each for *Best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photograph of the month* and *best set of photographs for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the month*. Kindly send these mails to me ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> singh...@gmail.com) and Ushadi Micromini ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> microminipho...@gmail.com) and not to the group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope maximum number of members will participate in this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contest. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
