Rest assured the demand for fragrant flowers like jasmine and champa
including michelia champak will never go down because of their in gajra,
worship and perfumery industry. Jasmine blooms in summer when very few other
flowers are available.
ak

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Aparna Watve <aparnawat...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Cut flowers that we see today have developed through years (atleast 2
> centuries for some) of horticultural research. The wild gerbera or
> wild rose or wild carnation did not have all the desirable qualities
> of a "good cut-flower". They  were selected, improved upon by various
> techniques to give a desirable flower that can be mass produced. I
> don't think we can ever achieve the same with the indigenous species.
> BUT It is truly a consumer's world today. So perhaps if we keep
> demanding for fragrance as a desirable character in market flowers, we
> might start getting that too. In any case, I don't want the exotic cut
> flowers to be replaced as I like them too. But I want to broaden my
> choice and introduce (bio-)diversity in it : )
> Thanks all for the discussion- it feels good to discuss the idea with
> like minded people which has been in my mind for sometime now, and
> this group has so many individuals who can discuss different
> perspectives.
> regards
> aparna
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Anand Kumar Bhatt
> <anandkbh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The poooooint made by Aparna ji is correct to some extent. But the point
> is
> > that all the exotic flowers mentioned by her are good cut floweeers and
> they
> > can be sold and deocorated in bunches. Jasmine champa and plumeria etc do
> > not give the same effect in a vase, and then their shelf life and keeping
> > quality is low..
> > It is an interesting point to note that most of Indian flowers are white
> or
> > its approximation, and the multicolour effect of the spring flowers which
> > are mostly exotic is very difficult to find in native flowers Though we
> have
> > our share of cloloured flowers like lotus and lilies, plumeria champa,
> > lagerstroemia, sonjuhi etc. but they are few and far between.
> > ak
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Aparna Watve <aparnawat...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> For some days I have been wondering why we are forced by market to
> >> exchange non-fragrant (though attractive) flowers like Jerbera, Roses,
> >> carnations etc. as bouquets? Can we as consumers, start demanding that
> >> flower shops keep fragrant flowers too? There is wide variety
> >> available in Jasmines, chapha (Michelia, Artabotrys), Hedychium,
> >> Mimusops(bakul), nishigandh (polyanthus), Plumeria(chapha), Parijat
> >> (Nyctanthus). This will help the small group of people who are into
> >> intricate gajra making but are generally only seen selling it at
> >> traffic signals for sums as low as 10 rs. for 4 gajras! while a single
> >> mass produced carnation can cost around 12-15 Rs. If the demand
> >> increases, perhaps the flower industry (so highly promoted by
> >> government in Maharashtra) will start researching these species
> >> seriously for commercial value. Someone can also suggest making them
> >> more attractive as bouquets by making floral offerings as in
> >> South-east asia.
> >> Aparna
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 5:49 PM, ranjini kamath <ranjin...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Rashida This is a very commonly grown plant in Mangalore.I'm sure
> >> > almost all Konkani speaking households would have this in their garden
> >> > space,however small. New shoots spring up during the rains.These are
> >> > rainy season blooms.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM, rashida atthar
> >> > <rashidaatt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> I must inform that after going through the Flora of Mah., Vol I, I
> got
> >> >> to
> >> >> know that  this species is listed under 'Some botanically important
> and
> >> >> rare
> >> >> plants from western Maharashtra '.
> >> >
> >> > THIS is highly interesting.V. ingenious methods used by the Spanish
> >> > women:)
> >> > Regards
> >> >             Ranjini
> >> >>
> >> >> Another interesting and
> >> >> intriguing bit from wiki is that women under Spanish colonial times
> >> >> used to
> >> >> adorn themselves and "...because of the intricate structure of the
> >> >> inflorescence, women hid and carried secret mesages important to the
> >> >> independence cause under it."  A plant working for human independence
> >> >> !!
> >> >>
> >> >> regards,
> >> >> Rashida.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> From: ranjin...@gmail.com
> >> >>> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:01:27 +0530
> >> >>> Subject: [indiantreepix:21140] Re: Most fragrant flower- Request ID
> >> >>> please
> >> >>> 190909
> >> >>> To: rashidaatt...@hotmail.com; dinesh.va...@gmail.com
> >> >>> CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Rashida & Dinesh ji, i always find that these traditional flowers
> >> >>> raise such a wave of good feeling! When young i helped my mother
> make
> >> >>> gajras -bending the stalk into half & tying them using plantain pith
> >> >>> fibre-because the stalks are too tender to be tied using anything
> >> >>> else.
> >> >>> Thanks for the additional info too Rashida.
> >> >>> This has been a nice inter-change! Thanks:)
> >> >>> Ranjini
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM, rashida atthar
> >> >>> <rashidaatt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> > Thanks for the appreciation. I am so happy to know it is  one of
> >> >>> > your
> >> >>> > favourite flowers and am glad I uploaded them today! The fragrance
> >> >>> > is unbeatable even by Kamini's and sonchampa's which I find very
> >> >>> > fragrant. You seem to be good at growing these at different
> places.
> >> >>> > Maybe
> >> >>> > Tabish ji should take your help in growing them in Delhi ! Tabish
> ji
> >> >>> > I
> >> >>> > hope
> >> >>> > you can have these soon in Delhi !
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Thank you Dinesh ji for the prompt ID which I could see only on
> the
> >> >>> > main
> >> >>> > site and also to Pankaj ji for the the info. from Chattisgarh.
> What
> >> >>> > a
> >> >>> > fragrant place it will be once the farmers have planted so many of
> >> >>> > these
> >> >>> > flowers.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > The wiki site has very interesting info. about this flower: it is
> >> >>> > Cuba's
> >> >>> > national flower and Floridata says it is native of India and
> popular
> >> >>> > landscape plant throughout Florida,  the Gulf, tropical and
> >> >>> > sub-tropical
> >> >>> > areas world wide.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > regards,
> >> >>> > Rashida.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >> From: ranjin...@gmail.com
> >> >>> >> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:43:33 +0530
> >> >>> >> Subject: [indiantreepix:21125] Re: Most fragrant flower- Request
> ID
> >> >>> >> please
> >> >>> >> 190909
> >> >>> >> To: tabi...@gmail.com
> >> >>> >> CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> So nice to see an old favourite,Rashida.Thanks!! Am v. nostalgic
> >> >>> >> about
> >> >>> >> this flower.Wonderfully fragrant.I grew this in Goa-both white &
> >> >>> >> yellow varieties.It is v. commonly grown in Mangalorean
> homes-being
> >> >>> >> a
> >> >>> >> traditional favourite.There is a special way of weaving it into
> >> >>> >> gajras.We called it Basmati in Hindi-[it grew well in Jamshedpur
> >> >>> >> too!]
> >> >>> >> Konkani-Sugandhi.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Ranjini Kamath
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > I have always felt that this is a highly under-appreciated
> plant.
> >> >>> >> > With
> >> >>> >> > it heady frgrance, I thought it would be more popular as a
> house
> >> >>> >> > plant. But I am yet to see it growing in Delhi. I used to
> think,
> >> >>> >> > maybe
> >> >>> >> > it doesn't do well in hot weather like that of Delhi's, but if
> it
> >> >>> >> > can
> >> >>> >> > grow in
> >> >>> >> > Chhattisgarh, it can grow in Delhi.
> >> >>> >> >    Best wishes
> >> >>> >> >    - Tabish
> >> >>> >> >
> >> >>> >> > On Oct 19, 12:25 pm, Vijayadas D <vijayad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> >> Dear all,
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> In malayalam it is known as Kalyana souganthigham.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 8:49 AM, rashida atthar
> >> >>> >> >> <rashidaatt...@hotmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> > These beautiful and very fragrant  blooms are from Mumbai,
> >> >>> >> >> > taken
> >> >>> >> >> > in
> >> >>> >> >> > the
> >> >>> >> >> > past two days. Request ID  of the same please. Thank you.
> >> >>> >> >>
> >> >>> >> >> > regards,
> >> >>> >> >> > Rashida.
> >> >>> >> >>
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> >> Dr. Aparna Watve
> >> Dr. Aparna Watve
> >> Asha Appt, Shanti Nagar, Ekata Colony
> >> Nr. BSNL tower, Akbar Ward,
> >> Seoni.480661
> >> tel: 07692-228115
> >> mobile: (0)9755667710 and 9822597288 still works
> >>
> >> > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Anand Kumar Bhatt
> > A-59, B.S.F.Colony, Airport Road
> > Gwalior. 474 005.
> > Tele: 0751-247 2233. Mobile 0 94253 09780.
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> > http://anandkbhatt.blogspot.com
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>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Aparna Watve
> Dr. Aparna Watve
> Asha Appt, Shanti Nagar, Ekata Colony
> Nr. BSNL tower, Akbar Ward,
> Seoni.480661
> tel: 07692-228115
> mobile: (0)9755667710 and 9822597288 still works
>



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