You must be correct, Pravin.
My friend Hemanth (botanist) too strongly maintains it to be *H.
excelsum*(it is yet a popular name,
*H. orixense* is current).

Finally, *Hymenodictyon orixense* !!!

Thanks Pravin for validating; thanks to all.
Regards.

PS: Pravin, does this भोरसळ make sense as bhorsal ?





On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Pravin Kawale <kawale.pra...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi, Dinesh
> I have came across the same tree
> today at Sagargad Alibag and  could manage to photographed
> the dried leaf and capsule type fruits but when I gone through
> the ref.book (Forest Trees of South India, by S.G.Neginhal )
> I noticed that it is a H.orixense (Mar.name:Bhorsal) instead of
> H.obovatum.
> As per above said ref.book H.obovatum"s leavs are suddenly
> acuminate while H.orixense has broadly ovate leavs
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 12:55 AM, Barry Stock <barryst...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> After some searching I discovered it's in the Rubiaceae.
>>  -bs
>>
>>
>>  On Jan 22, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Kenneth Greby wrote:
>>
>>    Glad it was finally ID'ed! To what family does it belong?
>>
>> Regards--
>> Ken Greby
>> Palmetto Bay, Florida USA
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 1/22/09, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:7835] Re: ID of a fruiting tree
>> To: "Yazdy Palia" <yazdypa...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: fstf...@yahoo.com, "satish phadke" <phadke.sat...@gmail.com>,
>> "sweedle cerejo" <sweedle.cer...@gmail.com>, "Indian Tree Pix" <
>> indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 1:41 PM
>>
>>  Hello friends,
>> This plant turns out to be *Hymenodictyon obovatum* ... many thanks to my
>> botanist friend - Hemanth Tripathi !!!
>> Perhaps endemic to Western Ghats of India, rarely found in the Eastern
>> Ghats.
>> And could be also native to Madagascar.
>>
>> Elsewhere, it could be *H. orixense* (popular synonym: *H. excelsum*)
>> which is similar in many aspects; however a larger tree, rounded canopy,
>> reflexed capsules instead of the the erect in case if *H. obovata.*
>> **
>>
>> Commonly known as: obovate-leaved bridal-couch plant
>>  • Kannada: ಬೋಗಿಮರ bogimara, ಹೀರೆಮರ hiremara
>>  • Konkani: सिरीद sirid
>>  • Malayalam: കിലുങ്ങിമരം kilungimaram
>>  • Marathi: कडवा शिरीद kadva shirid
>>  • Tamil: மலைத்தணக்கு malai-t-tanakku
>>  • Telugu: dudippa
>>
>> References:
>> 1) Forest Flora of Hyderabad State by M Sharfuddin Khan
>>
>> http://forest.ap.nic.in/Forest%20Flora%20of%20Andhra%20Pradesh/Flora%20by%20M%20Sharfuddin%20Khan/Botanical%20Names/Hymenodictyon%20obovatum.htm
>> 2) Further Flowers of Sahyadri by Shrikant Ingalhalikar
>> 3) Flora of Eastern Ghats by by T Pullaiah, K Sri Ramamurthy, a Google
>> Book
>>
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=SZifARJXLJgC&amp;pg=PA170&amp;lpg=PA170&amp;dq=Hymenodictyon+obovatum&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=FDYPX650e0&amp;sig=LNHiCKm2B1dKwvmm89ChV2YOPLo&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;resnum=7&amp;ct=result#PPA170,M1<http://books.google.com/books?id=SZifARJXLJgC&pg=PA170&lpg=PA170&dq=Hymenodictyon+obovatum&source=bl&ots=FDYPX650e0&sig=LNHiCKm2B1dKwvmm89ChV2YOPLo&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=7&ct=result#PPA170,M1>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> I wiil be happy if any of or Telugu friends can provide me with **dudippa
>> ** in native script.
>>
>>
>> Many many thanks and regards to all.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Yazdy, those fruits are no longer than 2 cm.
>>>
>>> None of these silk cottons.
>>> *Bombax ceiba*: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2318592567/
>>> *Bombax insigne*: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2236502899/
>>> *Ceiba pentandra*: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/2287675871/
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Yazdy Palia <yazdypa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>> It could be silk cotton. The bark looks like it so does the fruits
>>>> (pods). To me it looks like the silk cotton pods and not fruit.
>>>> I am not sure though.
>>>> regards
>>>> Yazdy Palia.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Kenneth Greby <fstf...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >  I agree that it is not Gmelina. I had thought that the fruit shown
>>>> might be
>>>> > flower buds. Sorry for the confusion.
>>>> >
>>>> >  I do not know this tree.
>>>> >
>>>> > Regards--
>>>> > Ken Greby
>>>> > Palmetto Bay, Florida USA
>>>> >
>>>> > --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
>>>> > Subject: [indiantreepix:7832] Re: ID of a fruiting tree
>>>> > To: "satish phadke" <phadke.sat...@gmail.com>
>>>> > Cc: "sweedle cerejo" <sweedle.cer...@gmail.com>, fstf...@yahoo.com,
>>>> "Indian
>>>> > Tree Pix" <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>> > Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 3:55 AM
>>>> >
>>>> > ... the fruits look different ... in general is quite close.
>>>> > Just in case, a lone torn leaf and trunk can help us get closer ...
>>>> here are
>>>> > its photos.
>>>> > Regards.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:19 AM, satish phadke <
>>>> phadke.sat...@gmail.com>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Sorry..............it just slipped through. I meant to say the pods
>>>> look
>>>> >> like those of SALAI (Boswelia serrata) and not Moi(Lannea)Look in the
>>>> >> attached picture
>>>> >> Satish
>>>> >>
>>>> >> 2009/1/20 Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Some of my photos here:
>>>> >>> Gmelina:
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314...@n00&q=Gmelina&m=text
>>>> >>> Lannea:
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=91314...@n00&q=Lannea&m=text
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Regards.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ... I am afraid it is not Lannea or Gmelina species.
>>>> >>>> Regards.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:08 PM, satish phadke
>>>> >>>> <phadke.sat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> I also think it to be Lannea coromandelica(Moi)
>>>> >>>>> Satish
>>>> >>>>> 2009/1/20 sweedle cerejo <sweedle.cer...@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Hi!
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>     I think this is Lannea sp.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Regards,
>>>> >>>>>> Sweedle
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Dinesh Valke <
>>>> dinesh.va...@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http:// satishphadke.blogspot.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>> > >
>>>> >
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>
>
> --
> Pravin
>

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