Very likely that the photos posted by me are those of Peltophorum africanum but would like to be sure that they are not of P. dubium. With best regards,Chitralekha
On Tuesday, 24 October 2017 11:17 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: Any any final decision in the matter pl. On 17-Oct-2017 8:30 PM, "Chitralekha P" <p_chitrale...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: Thank you Pradip ji. It does not look like P. dasyrhachis as the pedicels are as long as the sepals/calyx (attached photo). What about P. dubium? I am not able to access any information on this particular species. With best regards,Chitralekha On Tuesday, 17 October 2017 12:41 PM, Pradip Krishen <treesofde...@gmail.com> wrote: I looked up Peltophorum when I got back last night. There appear to be 2 distinct species with branched stipules: One is the African wattle (P. africanum) and the other is P. dasyrrachis I am sending you something from Notes I took on this latter species, which might be of interest: MOBOT lists Peltophorum dasyrrhachis var. tonkinensis(Pierre) K. Larsen & S.S. Larsen Flora of Tropical east Africa - Saysthere are 3 species cultivated in East Africa, with similar yellow flowers anda peltate stigma, and a flattened indehiscent pod winged along both sutures...The differencesare:-Peltophorumafricanum Sond. – native of southern tropical andSouth Africa, with 10-28 pairs of leaflets per pinna – the leaflets mucronate at apex and about 0.3-1(-1.2) cm long x0.1-0.45 cm wide; pedicels at flowering time about 1-1.5times as long as the calyx. Peltophorumdasyrhachis (Miq.) Bak. – native of tropical Asia;foliage as in P. pterocarpum, subulatelybranched stipules, lateral unbranched racemes and pedicels +/- 3-4 times as long as its calyx. Peltophorumpterocarpum (DC.) K. Heyne [syn. P. ferrugineum(Decne.) Benth.; P. inerme (Roxb.) Naves; P. roxburghii (G.Don)Degener – native of tropical Asia & Australia, with 10-19 pairs of leafletsper pinna which are emarginate and without amucro at apex; +/- 0.8-3 cm long x 0.35-0.9 cm wide; small unbranchedstipules; racemes aggregated into a terminalpanicle; pedicels at flowering time at most as long as the calyx. I hope this helps and doesn't cause more confusion!with best wishes Pradip On 15 October 2017 at 13:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Pradeep ji,May I request you to pl. give your final word for species id. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> Date: 8 October 2017 at 11:53 Subject: Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:278614] Peltophorum To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups. com> Cc: chitralekha P <p_chitrale...@yahoo.co.in> Thanks, Chitralekha ji. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 'Chitralekha P' via efloraofindia <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m> Date: 7 October 2017 at 21:24 Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:278614] Peltophorum To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com>, efloraofindia <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m> Thank you Pradip Kishan ji. I had gone through your book "Trees of Delhi" but could not find description of Peltophorum dubium. So have not found answer to my question yet; how does one differentiate between P. dubium and P. africanum? I have attached photos of stipules and fruits. Look very like those of P. africanum.Regards,Chitralekha On Friday, 6 October 2017 12:46 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, Pradip ji. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Pradip Krishan Date: 6 October 2017 at 12:14 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:278277] Peltophorum To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com> The surest way of discriminating between these Peltophorums is from the stipules (pls see my treatment of Peltophorum in Trees of Delhi)I'd like to see a close up of the stipule before being sure... regards Pradip On 5 October 2017 at 12:51, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: Forwarding for id. pl. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: 'Chitralekha P' via efloraofindia <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m> Date: 2 October 2017 at 11:09 Subject: [efloraofindia:278277] Peltophorum To: Abridged Recipients <indiantree...@googlegroups.co m> Dear friends,Kindly identify the species of Peltophorum; is it P. dubium or P. africanum? The plant is growing in Delhi and flowers in August/September. 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