Thanks, Chris ji -- With regards, J. M. Garg
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Chris Fraser-Jenkins <> Date: Tue 21 Apr, 2020, 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:348579] Cheilanthes NOT argentea SN21420 To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> Oh dear - this really is completely misguided and totally mistaken! Wrong genus, wrong species. I really think one must update and improve the identification and naming while posting specimens (often bad quality ones like this that show nothing to enable an identification), and revise these regressive old-style names that are completely out of touch with modern botany. First the genus - while in previous times all cheilanthoid ferns were simply called Cheilanthes, nearly everyone nowadays recognises the genus Aleuritopteris for these farinose ones - also supported molecularly. So may I suggest Aleuritopteris, instead of Cheilanthes? Secondly the species, A. argentea is a high-altitude to temperate species of China, Korea, Japan and Tibet (plus one locality at 3000 m in the dry inner Himalaya in Central Nepal and another locality in a similar region in Bhutan). It is not present in peninsular India, nor in the usual Indo-Himalayan region. There is a lot of accurate Botanical literature on Indian Aleuritopteris - but presumably the poster has not heard of any of it. For Aleuritopteris one needs to see the distribution of the scales on the back of the frond - stipe, rachis and costae - but this is not shown. It is also a terrible specimen - all scrumpled up as the collector did not bother to soak it out flat in a bucket of water before pressing. Totally inadequate! As I happen to have specilaised in the genus I can recognise that it is the common Aleuritopteris anceps, the usual one in South India, and not the other common South Indian one, A. bullosa. But what's the use of a specimen so bad as this - or the use of posting it? Anyway, that's it. Chris Fraser-Jenkins. On Tuesday, 21 April 2020, 14:14:27 WEST, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks, Santhan ji. ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: *Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan* <ponsant...@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 18:37 Subject: [efloraofindia:348579] Cheilanthes argentea SN21420 To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> *Cheilanthes argentea* (S.G.Gmel) Kunze, Linnaea wild fern from Western Ghats Tamilnadu. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAJa_cDi-7pV_AkstGyntbRG9d03w2wiauOWFMa7rHam-nH0RAQ%40mail.gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CAJa_cDi-7pV_AkstGyntbRG9d03w2wiauOWFMa7rHam-nH0RAQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 2,50,000 images are directly displayed on 31.1.20). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFDOwqWBZzv01Sz57PhD8HKOkB-PPSno3cD5dw716SFW5A%40mail.gmail.com.