Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

On Mon 2016-03-14 11:21, Sebastian Laskawiec wrote: > I took a look at Nexus download statistics and Infinispan Uberjars are > about 7% of our downloads (of course this calculation has been based on our > JBoss Nexus instance and we have no data from other mirrors). It's actually the opposite,

Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Sebastian Laskawiec wrote: > I took a look at Nexus download statistics and Infinispan Uberjars are about > 7% of our downloads (of course this calculation has been based on our JBoss > Nexus instance and we have no data from other mirrors).

Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

To make a more practical proposal: give me a way to start a local, non transactional Cache which doesn't require any of: - JGroups - JBoss Marshalling - JTA API - Infinispan Commons If I don't have - for example - JGroups and am starting a clustered cache, I will see an exception "Enabling

Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

Hi, uber jars were introduced as an answer to complaints such as "there are too many jars" but I still think this was the wrong answer.. too many issues so please stop this: it's not helping usability to understand which jars are needed, and it makes things worse with runtime errors not matching

Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

-- Galder Zamarreño Infinispan, Red Hat > On 14 Mar 2016, at 08:42, Tristan Tarrant wrote: > > > > On 11/03/2016 18:20, Galder Zamarreño wrote: >> Are uber jars really that useful? From my own experience they often get > > The number of users who don't use a dependency

Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

I took a look at Nexus download statistics and Infinispan Uberjars are about 7% of our downloads (of course this calculation has been based on our JBoss Nexus instance and we have no data from other mirrors). So, once we are clear how Uber Jars should work... let's take a look at one of the

Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

On 11/03/2016 18:20, Galder Zamarreño wrote: > Are uber jars really that useful? From my own experience they often get The number of users who don't use a dependency management system (Maven, Ivy, Gradle) is quite a lot higher than you'd expect. Tristan -- Tristan Tarrant Infinispan Lead

Re: [infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

Are uber jars really that useful? From my own experience they often get more in the way, e.g. clash of dependencies. We can fix our own clashes but once you have other modules creating uber jars users might get more of those clashes.Regardless of that, if we're continue with uber jars, it'd make

[infinispan-dev] Uber jars - how do we want to use them

Hey! Uber jars have been around for quite a while but some old problems are still biting our ankles. The biggest problem is JBoss Logging... But before diving into the technical discussion, I would like to clarify how do we treat Uber Jars and how other (let's call them "extra") modules should