Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-18 Thread ajrijnberg
Hello, I sometimes get the following error message when running "cvs up": cvs update: checksum failure after patch to some_dir/some_file.c; will refetch Is this serious? It seems that, after the update, the file in particular is correct... What is the reason for this message? Aad Rijnberg ___

RE: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-18 Thread Jim.Hyslop
ajrijnberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I sometimes get the following error message when running "cvs up": > cvs update: checksum failure after patch to some_dir/some_file.c; will > refetch > > Is this serious? It seems that, after the update, the file in > particular > is correct... > What

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-18 Thread Larry Jones
ajrijnberg writes: > > I sometimes get the following error message when running "cvs up": > cvs update: checksum failure after patch to some_dir/some_file.c; will > refetch > > Is this serious? It seems that, after the update, the file in particular > is correct... > What is the reason for this m

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-18 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 04:35:00PM -0500, Jim.Hyslop wrote: > ajrijnberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > cvs update: checksum failure after patch to some_dir/some_file.c; will > > refetch > > The > two checksums did not match, so CVS scrapped the patched file and just > retrieved the whole thi

RE: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-19 Thread Jim.Hyslop
Eric Siegerman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Personally, I'd be in favour of CVS hiding the distinction > between "patch" and "update". They both lead to the same end > state, and which method CVS chooses is an implementation detail > that's irrelevent to end users. > > The "P" status and th

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-19 Thread Larry Jones
Eric Siegerman writes: > > The "P" status and the "checksum failure" message should both go > away. (Patched and fully-refetched files should all be labelled > "U".) I might be convinced about "P" status (although, personally, I like it), but I strongly disagree about the checksum failure messag

RE: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-19 Thread Jim.Hyslop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Eric Siegerman writes: > > > > The "P" status and the "checksum failure" message should both go > > away. (Patched and fully-refetched files should all be labelled > > "U".) > > I might be convinced about "P" status (although, personally, > I

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-19 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 03:22:31PM -0500, Larry Jones wrote: Larry> Eric Siegerman writes: Larry> > Larry> > The "P" status and the "checksum failure" message should both go Larry> > away. (Patched and fully-refetched files should all be labelled Larry> > "U".) Larry> Larry> I might be convinced

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-19 Thread Larry Jones
Eric Siegerman writes: > > Hmm, what would it take to convince you? :-) A whole bunch of people to agree (vociferously) with you. > I strongly agree with Jim. Some more thoughts on how it could be > improved: > - Saving the user's file as .# backup is the least it should > do. Better wou

RE: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-22 Thread Jim.Hyslop
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [on eliminating 'P' status code] > Eric Siegerman writes: > > Hmm, what would it take to convince you? :-) > > A whole bunch of people to agree (vociferously) with you. I hope there was a missing smiley, Larry. The problem is that most people who

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-22 Thread Mark D. Baushke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jim.Hyslop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [on eliminating 'P' status code] > > Eric Siegerman writes: > > > Hmm, what would it take to convince you? :-) > > > > A whole bunch of people to agree (voc

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-22 Thread Larry Jones
Jim.Hyslop writes: > > I hope there was a missing smiley, Larry. The problem is that most people > who get confused by this issue probably don't subscribe to this list. Heck, > most of them probably aren't even aware this list exists. So I don't think > you'll hear all the grumbling and confusion

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-23 Thread Ed Avis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry Jones) writes: >I strongly disagree about the checksum failure message. It indicates >a serious confusion about the state of the working file that the user >*must* investigate. It indicates that there were local changes to >the file that CVS doesn't know about and is in

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-23 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 09:45:00PM -0800, Mark D. Baushke wrote: > In theory, the server had a copy of the client file to do the patch in > the first place and the client copy either became stale or was corrupted > while the server copy was being used to generate a patch. Or the client file change

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-25 Thread Aad Rijnberg
On Tue, 2003-12-23 at 21:14, Eric Siegerman wrote: > Or the client file changed but its timestamp did not. Hi, Thank you all for your explanation so far. I was the one who started this discussion. I am just a normal CVS-user (also playing CVS-administrator for our project team), so I have maybe

Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?

2003-12-25 Thread Larry Jones
Aad Rijnberg writes: > > One of my colleagues wrote a script to remove > tabs, CR/LF, and beautify the code with indent. In doing so he chose to > leave the date/time stamp of the file equal to that of before the > beautifying action. [...] > Am I right that this is probably the cause of the probl

Re: getting rid of "P" and fixing "M" (was: Checksum failure: serious problem or not?)

2003-12-24 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, December 23, 2003 at 01:34:19 (-0500), Larry Jones wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Checksum failure: serious problem or not? > > Jim.Hyslop writes: > > > > Well, even in local mode the client must have some knowledge of how to do a > > merge, otherwise it could