Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-14 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/13/2000 11:47:53 PM Although I would lean towards honouring the "add" request, it might be prudent to at least print a warning message indicating that the directory would normally have been ignored if it had been traversed from the "root" of the module instead of

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-13 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, March 9, 2000 at 10:11:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 04:27:12 PM [ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:39:03 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-09 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 04:23:10 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server [ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:47:39 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re:

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-09 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 03:18:04 PM Even still, what's wrong with an 'all-in-one' to add something to the module file as well? (or are you of the 'if it can be in a script, it mustn't be in the regular program' camp?) I know I'm in the 'if it can be in a script, it mustn't be in

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-09 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/08/2000 04:27:12 PM [ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 09:39:03 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server What if the final lines were "cvs add" instead of "cvs add file"? Now that's a good question.

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-08 Thread Michael Gersten
"Greg A. Woods" wrote: Make sure that you don't permit 'cvs co mispelling' to create a new directory when 'cvs co misspelling' was intended. If you spell it right in the "CVSROOT/modules" entry then all should be well... :-) How about 'cvs new module-name module-dir local-dir' to

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-08 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, March 7, 2000 at 21:23:34 (-0600), Michael Gersten wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server Even still, what's wrong with an 'all-in-one' to add something to the module file as well? (or are you of the 'if it can be in a script, it

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 16:04:27 [ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 11:18:50 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server Please help me out here. I'm trying to figure out where our disconnect is. I'm saying that "cvs watch"

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Mike Little
On 6 Mar 2000, at 9:37, Noel L Yap wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 16:04:27 [ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 11:18:50 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server [SNIP] What do you think it does in order for it to work

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/06/2000 12:33:39 PM On 6 Mar 2000, at 9:37, Noel L Yap wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 16:04:27 [ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 11:18:50 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server [SNIP] What

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, March 6, 2000 at 09:37:33 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server I think either CVS should require CVSROOT/modules or it shouldn't. Your proposal is an "in between" decision that could confuse people. The way I

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-06 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, March 6, 2000 at 11:38:41 (-0600), Michael Gersten wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server Make sure that you don't permit 'cvs co mispelling' to create a new directory when 'cvs co misspelling' was intended. If you spell it right in

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-04 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.03.03 15:52:50 [ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 09:19:44 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server OK, then, why do you say it's essential. Also, my poll says otherwise. Noone has responded to my poll

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-03 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/02/2000 05:03:06 PM [ On Thursday, March 2, 2000 at 09:51:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 03/01/2000 09:45:14 PM NO, it must *NOT*! There is a very very essential

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-03 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, March 3, 2000 at 09:19:44 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server OK, then, why do you say it's essential. Also, my poll says otherwise. Noone has responded to my poll saying that they agree that "cvs add

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-02 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, March 2, 2000 at 11:37:10 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server You are failing to understand the temporal nature of CVS (its most central reason for being!). This command does in fact operate on the files

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-01 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/29/2000 12:38:16 PM [ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 08:34:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server You're absolutely correct again. If someone has a .cvsignore file listing all their empty

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-03-01 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/29/2000 01:08:54 PM [ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 09:00:01 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server In order for "cvs add empty-hier; cvs ci" to work properly, "cvs ci" will have to be changed to

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/28/2000 10:01:35 PM [ On Monday, February 28, 2000 at 16:57:30 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server Again, you're absolutely right. Users shouldn't rely on the optimisation you propose. They

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Noel L Yap
Noel L Yap 02/29/2000 08:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server (Document link not converted) [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/28/2000 10:01:35 PM [ On Monday, February 28, 2000 at 16:57:30 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ]

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 08:34:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server You're absolutely correct again. If someone has a .cvsignore file listing all their empty directories and does "cvs add; cvs ci", those empty

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-29 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 29, 2000 at 08:34:25 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/28/2000 10:01:35 PM Hmm... really? Are you really sure you know what kinds of optimisations I'm talking about?

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-28 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/26/2000 02:23:11 PM [ On Friday, February 25, 2000 at 20:28:11 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server I want to take a poll with regards to the following issue: "cvs add" must specially handle empty

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-27 Thread Paul Sander
--- Forwarded mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to take a poll with regards to the following issue: "cvs add" must specially handle empty directory hierarchies such that no CVS admin subdirectories are created within them. (I've tried to be as unbiased with this statement as I can). Please

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-26 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, February 25, 2000 at 20:17:17 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server I'm not going to respond to any more of your crap. If you want to have a sane academic debate about some of the finer details of my "cvs add"

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-26 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, February 25, 2000 at 20:28:11 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server I want to take a poll with regards to the following issue: "cvs add" must specially handle empty directory hierarchies such that no CVS admin

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-25 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.25 18:16:18 [ On Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 20:50:24 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.24 17:17:25 [ On Thursday, February 24, 2000 at 13:34:36 (-0500),

RE: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-25 Thread Jerry Nairn
From: Noel L Yap [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 5:28 PM "cvs add" must specially handle empty directory hierarchies such that no CVS admin subdirectories are created within them. neutral. The real issue with me is that, due to the fact that they are not

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-21 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 2000.02.20 21:38:59 [ On Friday, February 18, 2000 at 16:52:48 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server What I'm getting at is that "cvs add dir" should create CVS admin subdirectories whether or not the

RE: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-21 Thread Cameron, Steve
Noel Yap wrote: Beware of premature optimisation. We've already laid out a process that relies on empty directories being created in the repo. IOW, it's *necessary* to allow creation of empty directories for this process. It would be a kludge to create a dummy file for this purpose.

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-20 Thread Garry T. Williams
At 09:38 PM 2/20/00, you wrote: [ On Friday, February 18, 2000 at 16:52:48 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server What I'm getting at is that "cvs add dir" should create CVS admin subdirectories whether or not the

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-18 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/17/2000 11:12:14 PM [ On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 17:42:28 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server This is fine by me. Again, note that the above doesn't mention "cvs add empty-hier" at all.

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-17 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Thursday, February 17, 2000 at 17:42:28 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server This is fine by me. Again, note that the above doesn't mention "cvs add empty-hier" at all. I'm not sure what you're getting at by that.

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-16 Thread Noel L Yap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 02/16/2000 12:50:51 AM My proposal was an RFC of sorts -- eventually it will come with "working code" to prove the concept (just as the original release of CVS offered a way to prove the validity of the copy-modify-merge paradigm). The final pudding will be in how widely

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-16 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Wednesday, February 16, 2000 at 12:43:31 (-0500), Noel L Yap wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server "cvs add dir" *must* operate on the local directory in so far as to create CVS admin subdirectories within those local directories. It should

RE: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Jerry Nairn
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 9:19 AM [ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 09:18:18 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server Oh? When is the last time that you

RE: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 11:38:33 (-0800), Jerry Nairn wrote: ] Subject: RE: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server.... So, after you're done, I will have to create a directory in the repository so that cvs will accept a file in a directory in a work area?

RE: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Cameron, Steve
Noel Yap wrote: [...] Taking another stance, "cvs add dir" will still act on files within dir. The difference with my proposition is that "dir/CVS" will be created whether or not there're files within the hierarchy. And, "dir" will get created upon "cvs ci" whether or not

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Tuesday, February 15, 2000 at 10:00:51 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server Hah. So when I "cvs co module" those directories module, module/foo, and module/bar just spring into existance at the magic whim of the

Re: removing the need for cvs add file to contact the server....

2000-02-15 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Monday, February 14, 2000 at 12:23:12 (-0500), John Macdonald wrote: ] Subject: Re: removing the need for "cvs add file" to contact the server When a user creates a new file on the file system he first does a mkdir and then edits the file. How does it *hurt* CVS if the user first