OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Gary Mills wrote: > Thanks everyone for your responses. I don't want to clutter up this > technical mailing list with more management issues, although I'd > certainly be pleased to receive personal e-mail on this topic. > > There appear to be two types of outsourcing. The Google example was > one

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

If we could ever get a decent calendar system that works together with Cyrus or other software many people would be happy. Rudy -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Rudy Gevaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel:+32 9 264 4734 Directie ICT, afd. Infras

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Have you ever looked at some of the CalDAV Servers out there? I'll save you some time, http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/calendarserver http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ As well as, http://sourceforge.net/projects/modcaldav/ Truthfully, you don't need Cyrus to support a Calendar. Because in al

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On 13 Nov 07, at 0812, Scott M. Likens wrote: > No it's not > as seamless as Exchange, but it works just fine and it's an open > standard. However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. Offer a solution which doesn't allow Outlook to work ``like it should'' and you risk learning

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Scott M. Likens wrote: > Have you ever looked at some of the CalDAV Servers out there? > > I'll save you some time, > > http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/calendarserver > > http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ > > As well as, > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/modcaldav/ > > Truthfully, you don't

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

> 3. Can't handle high load very well, in fact it handles load horribly. I have a friend who works at a small shop who reports exactly the same issue with Zimbra, s..ll...ooo..... > 3) ClamAV. Do note how much email I said we dealt with a minute. We > didn't get a great deal of email. May

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Ian G Batten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. They live in Microsoft Office, and they need a server to support it. That is the assignment given. I was looking at Open-Xchan

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Tuesday 13 November 2007 03:36:55 am Rudy Gevaert wrote: > Scott M. Likens wrote: > > Have you ever looked at some of the CalDAV Servers out there? > > > > I'll save you some time, > > > > http://trac.macosforge.org/projects/calendarserver > > > > http://rscds.sourceforge.net/ > > > > As well a

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we are ultimately being forced to adopt Exchange en-mass and abandon our current Cyru

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On 13 Nov 07, at 1335, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: >> 3. Can't handle high load very well, in fact it handles load >> horribly. > > I have a friend who works at a small shop who reports exactly the same > issue with Zimbra, s..ll...ooo..... > >> 3) ClamAV. Do note how much email I said we d

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

--On 13. November 2007 09:10:08 -0500 Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ian G Batten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. Fortunately that's not true of everyone. T

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

David Chait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS > solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), > this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we are > ultimately being forced to adopt E

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

> One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS > solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), > this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we > are ultimately being forced to adopt Exchange en-mass and abandon our > cu

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Have you looked at Funambol for your OSS push email? David Chait wrote: > One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS > solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support (Activesync), > this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we > ar

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:10 -0500, Joseph Brennan wrote: > Ian G Batten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. > > > This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. They > live in Microsoft Office, and they need a server to sup

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Darin Perusich wrote: > Have you looked at Funambol for your OSS push email? No I hadn't heard of it, but thanks for bringing it to my attention, I will give it a shot. Cheers, David Cyrus Home Page: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/ Cyrus Wiki/FAQ: http://cyrusimap.web.cmu.edu/twiki List Arch

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 18:27 +0100, Gunnar Wrobel wrote: > I don't know of ANY Kolab compatible client that would do that. Which > client are you referring to? > > Cheers, > > Gunnar This was quite some time ago, around the first release of their 2.x product IIRC. It was the outlook connector th

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Zachariah Mully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 09:10 -0500, Joseph Brennan wrote: >> Ian G Batten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > However, people don't want calendaring, they want Outlook. >> >> >> This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. They >> li

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

> > This describes exactly the point of view of administrative staff. They > > live in Microsoft Office, and they need a server to support it. That is > > the assignment given. > > I was looking at Open-Xchange on the web . > > The server provides webmail and MAPI in

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

I was using a Tomcat based CalDAV Server. for awhile, I forget what it's name was. However I have actually been using the CalDav server from apple lately (see url 1 in the the quote). It's been quite pleasant. I am sure there is better, there is worse. They have a great love of python that

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Ian, The only problem with using clamav-filter (or something appropriate) as a milter, etc. Was it did not fall into what Zimbra designed. Quite frankly I think it would have been a lot smoother with Sendmail+Milter+Clamav+whatever else they wanted. However, that is not the direction they p

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Adam Tauno Williams wrote: 3. Can't handle high load very well, in fact it handles load horribly. I have a friend who works at a small shop who reports exactly the same issue with Zimbra, s..ll...ooo..... I'm glad to know that I wasn't alone, even though I was positive I was not.

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 14:29 -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Never had a corrupt PST using ZideLook (the Outlook plugin for > OpenGroupware). Make sue they provide a *real* MAPI provider for > outlook and not some background sync thingy (as several Open Source > Outlook connectors do or at lea

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

> > Never had a corrupt PST using ZideLook (the Outlook plugin for > > OpenGroupware). Make sue they provide a *real* MAPI provider for > > outlook and not some background sync thingy (as several Open Source > > Outlook connectors do or at least did). > I'll have to give OGo a shot again, when I t

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Tue, 2007-11-13 at 12:22 -0800, Scott M. Likens wrote: > Ian, > > The only problem with using clamav-filter (or something appropriate) > as a milter, etc. Was it did not fall into what Zimbra designed. > Quite frankly I think it would have been a lot smoother with Sendmail > +Milter+Clamav+wha

RE: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

Hi, > This was quite some time ago, around the first release of their 2.x > product IIRC. It was the outlook connector that would save all calendar > entries from outlook to the IMAP server as binary messages, whereas the > Horde web front end saved the entries in xml, so Cyrus was at least > able

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On 13 Nov 07, at 1505, David Chait wrote: > One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS > solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support > (Activesync), > this is not to be underestimated as it is for us, a key reason why we > are ultimately being forced to

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 13:25 +, Ian G Batten wrote: > On 13 Nov 07, at 1505, David Chait wrote: > > > One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every OSS > > solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support > > (Activesync), > > this is not to be underestimated as

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Nov 14, 2007, at 10:01, Zachariah Mully wrote: > On Wed, 2007-11-14 at 13:25 +, Ian G Batten wrote: >> On 13 Nov 07, at 1505, David Chait wrote: >> >>> One key piece of functionality that seems to be missing from every >>> OSS >>> solution mentioned thus far is mobile device push support

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

I looked into using NotifyLink with Zimbra. The cost was a bit heavy, and the only option for us would have been them hosting it. (We did not/would not have any Windows Servers/Desktops to run the software). However luckily my Manager refused to run any software that did not offer a 'linux s

Re: OT: Re: How many people to admin a Cyrus system?

On Nov 14, 2007, at 16:20, Scott M. Likens wrote: > I looked into using NotifyLink with Zimbra. The cost was a bit > heavy, and the only option for us would have been them hosting it. > (We did not/would not have any Windows Servers/Desktops to run the > software). We're using their host