Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-10 Thread Ian Castle
Here is the 21.K patch. Apologies if this makes for an unacceptably large email. - It adds a new command folder which takes a folder as a parameter to timsieved which allows a script to be associated with any folder or heirarchy of folders in the imap store. - It alters lmtpd to pick the

RE: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Ian Castle
From: Lawrence Greenfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I think that you addressed my concerns in your second proposal. I'm not sure I love the idea of the folder command in timsieved, but I'll have to contemplate. I think there's also a question about whether at most one sieve script

RE: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Dave McCracken
--On Friday, November 09, 2001 08:10:35 + Ian Castle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So rather than thinking that this script applies to this user I am suggesting that we think this script applies to this folder. Obviously, if the folder is user.fred then the statements are synonymous. However,

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Amos Gouaux
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 08:10:35 -, Ian Castle [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ic) writes: ic Well, the mechanism/interface is there. Allow activate to apply to more ic than one script. ic One way would be to have a subdirectory called default with symlinks to ic all the active scripts in the directory.

RE: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Ian Castle
OK, here is the code I knocked up yesterday which implements the scripts use the same namespace as folders concept. i.e. allows a script to be set on a per folder basis, rather then a per user basis. Note that there is a bit of functionality missing from what I described yesterday - esp. in

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Amos Gouaux
On 09 Nov 2001 16:48:43 +, Ian Castle [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ic) writes: ic ... An alternative approach might be to implement the redirect feature ic in sieve. So that 'fileinto some.folder' wouldn't do any extra It's already there. See RFC3028: 4.3. Action redirect Syntax:

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Nick Sayer
It seems to me that this could be far more easily done by creating a pseudo- user. Have this user be the target of the alias and his sieve script will be run. That sieve script can have nothing but fileinto directives to populate the public folders. This pseudo-user does not even have to have an

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Amos Gouaux
On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:35:29 -0800 (PST), Nick Sayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ns) writes: ns It seems to me that this could be far more easily done by creating a pseudo- ns user. Have this user be the target of the alias and his sieve script will ns be run. That sieve script can have nothing but

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Ian Castle
That was how my inital implementation worked. In this case the pseudo user was anyone. It is working quite nicely for me. The big problem is that you can only have one script for the entire set of public folders. On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 17:35, Nick Sayer wrote: It seems to me that this could

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Ian Castle
I *was* referring to the action redirect in sieve... for some reason I thought it was an extension that hadn't been implemented in cyrus But sure enough it exists in CVS and 2.0.16. Strange. I must have made a mistake somewhere in one of my scripts... This is what I got after trying to use

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-09 Thread Michael Bacon
I think trying to patch in little solutions to how sieve currently works are going to meet with problems that the current model wasn't designed with this kind of broad functionality in mind. Going to a slightly different model would not only solve this problem, but others as well. Here's

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-08 Thread Ian Castle
On Thu, 2001-11-08 at 06:44, Ian Castle wrote: And I have a question - why is the existing name space magic cluttered up with the hash on the user name? Not saying it is unneeded - but if it is needed, then why isn't a similar hash needed in the folder directory? Sorry, I was being

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-08 Thread Lawrence Greenfield
From: Ian Castle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 08 Nov 2001 06:44:20 + On Wed, 2001-11-07 at 22:22, Lawrence Greenfield wrote: The other thing to consider is how to keep the Cyrus black-box approach. Non-administrators should be able to modify these Sieve scripts and name them

RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-07 Thread Ian Castle
Introduction The following is an implementation of the facility to allow mail delivered directly to a shared/public folder to be filtered with sieve. For example, you might have a shared folder public.interestingmessages and deliver mail to it using an address of [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-07 Thread Lawrence Greenfield
The other thing to consider is how to keep the Cyrus black-box approach. Non-administrators should be able to modify these Sieve scripts and name them appropriately. Magic directories just don't cut it. Larry

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-07 Thread Amos Gouaux
On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:22:08 -0500, Lawrence Greenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] (lg) writes: lg The other thing to consider is how to keep the Cyrus black-box lg approach. Non-administrators should be able to modify these Sieve lg scripts and name them appropriately. lg Magic directories just don't

Re: RFC: Sieving mail delivered directly to shared/public folders

2001-11-07 Thread Ian Castle
On Wed, 2001-11-07 at 22:22, Lawrence Greenfield wrote: The other thing to consider is how to keep the Cyrus black-box approach. Non-administrators should be able to modify these Sieve scripts and name them appropriately. I'm not sure I understand what you mean. By non-administrators do