Re: What examples are there?... of free news servers for gnus

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-13 00:01 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > If you'd like to subscribe to such groups, you may want to set > the new variable `gnus-maximum-newsgroup'[1] which has been > introduced in the latest Gnus (in Emacs CVS and in No Gnus v0.7). The name `gnus-maximum-newsgroup' is confusing; it so

Re: What examples are there?... of free news servers for gnus

2007-09-13 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
> Leo wrote: > The name `gnus-maximum-newsgroup' is confusing; it sounds like it is the > maximum newsgroups one can have. I came up with this name from `gnus-large-newsgroup' but I also didn't think it's good. > How about: >`gnus-newsgroup-maximum-articles' Excellent. I will implemen

What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
Hi there, >From the manual: ,[ (info "(gnus)Headers") ] | And Gnus uses a format internally that it calls "header", which is | what I'm talking about here. This is a 9-element vector, basically, | with each header (ouch) having one slot. ` It looks like Gnus has its own internal format

Re: What examples are there?... of free news servers for gnus

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-13 09:52 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>`gnus-newsgroup-maximum-articles' > > Excellent. I will implement it in the Gnus source. Thanks. Great! -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. => "(require 'cl) considered harmful" considered

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
> Leo wrote: > ,[ (info "(gnus)Headers") ] >| And Gnus uses a format internally that it calls "header", which is >| what I'm talking about here. This is a 9-element vector, basically, >| with each header (ouch) having one slot. > ` > It looks like Gnus has its own internal format and

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-13 11:15 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >> Leo wrote: > >> ,[ (info "(gnus)Headers") ] >>| And Gnus uses a format internally that it calls "header", which is >>| what I'm talking about here. This is a 9-element vector, basically, >>| with each header (ouch) having one slot. >> `-

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-13 11:15 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >> It looks like Gnus has its own internal format and I have heard that >> it is superior to NOV. So should users set gnus-nov-is-evil to t? > > If you have a nnml group, you can see its .overview file, that is just > NOV. It's a common format that

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
> Leo wrote: > On 2007-09-13 11:15 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >> If you have a nnml group, you can see its .overview file, that is just >> NOV. It's a common format that most news servers use when >> communicating with clients. It improves the performance. So, >> disabling it is not a go

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-13 13:09 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >> Leo wrote: >> On 2007-09-13 11:15 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > >>> If you have a nnml group, you can see its .overview file, that is just >>> NOV. It's a common format that most news servers use when >>> communicating with clients. It im

Re: What examples are there?... of free news servers for gnus

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-13 09:52 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>`gnus-newsgroup-maximum-articles' > > Excellent. I will implement it in the Gnus source. Thanks. Should this variables be defined in gnus-sum.el instead of gnus.el? I just found that all variables starting with gnus-newsgroup- are in gnus.s

Re: What examples are there?... of free news servers for gnus

2007-09-13 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
> Leo wrote: >>>`gnus-newsgroup-maximum-articles' > Should this variables be defined in gnus-sum.el instead of gnus.el? I > just found that all variables starting with gnus-newsgroup- are in > gnus.sum.el. Done. Thank you for the suggestion. _

Re: What examples are there?... of free news servers for gnus

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-13 23:31 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: `gnus-newsgroup-maximum-articles' > >> Should this variables be defined in gnus-sum.el instead of gnus.el? I >> just found that all variables starting with gnus-newsgroup- are in >> gnus.sum.el. > > Done. Thank you for the suggestion. Than

Re: partial citation in very wide reply

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-05-23 22:42 +0100, Leo wrote: > Dear all, > > It seems one cannot partially cite a message when doing very wide > reply. Is this a missing feature or a bug? > > Thanks, A few days ago, when gmane's MTA was down, all articles sent using 'F' (follow-up) would fail and I just missed this feat

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Katsumi Yamaoka
> Leo wrote: > On 2007-09-13 13:09 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>> Do you think this should go to the manual?' >> Isn't it enough? >> (info "(gnus)Terminology") >> , >>|"NOV" >>| When Gnus enters a group, it asks the back end for the headers of >>| all unread articles in the group.

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Leo
On 2007-09-14 00:27 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>> I take time ten times as long as Japanese to write English. ;-) > >> It is odd that it is not explained in the main text of the >> manual. Terminology is the last thing a user want to see. > > Indeed. I was skeptical to make the Gnus manual des

Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t?

2007-09-13 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >> [1] It was GNUS in those days. How simple the one I used first was: >> http://www.jpl.org/ftp/pub/elisp/attic/gnus-3.12.tar.Z Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That is impressive and it looks like it still runs in modern GNU Emacs. The first version I used was 2.10, and