Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Saša Janiška
Bob Newell writes: > Choose smtpmail if you don't want to bother with msmtp or if you are a > purist and want to do as much as possible within emacs. It there would be proper logging with smtpmail I'd probably use that... > Choose msmtp if you want something fast, convenient, and easy to use >

Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Lars-Johan Liman
Being an old Sendmail MTA geek, I use a different approach entirely. I have a local MTA (now Postfix, as Sendmail is more or less abandonware these days) on my machine, and use a "header_dependent_relay" database to make Postfix select the right account based on the From: line. GNUS just drops the

Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Štěpán Němec writes: > On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 13:44:21 -0700 > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> I'm using smtp with multiple accounts, and a `message-send-mail-hook' >> that sets the msmtp account based on the From header. Is that still the >> way everyone is doing it? Is there anything simpler for handl

Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Štěpán Němec
On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 13:44:21 -0700 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > I'm using smtp with multiple accounts, and a `message-send-mail-hook' > that sets the msmtp account based on the From header. Is that still the > way everyone is doing it? Is there anything simpler for handling > multiple accounts? I'm a

Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
Bob Newell writes: > While both work fine, I just find msmtp easier to set up and monitor > when using multiple outgoing servers. The .msmtp.log file has proven > useful many times, and .msmtprc is easy to configure. > > Of course, it's one more piece of software on your system, but it's a > good

Re: splitting Gmail account just copy not move :-(

2019-08-01 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
physiculus writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> >> Is that the only label it shows? What else is in the assoc list? > It depends on the folder in Gmail. > Sometimes it shows ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Important \\Inbox)")) or > ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Inbox \\Sent \\Starred)")) And you're sure that you'

Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Bob Newell
While both work fine, I just find msmtp easier to set up and monitor when using multiple outgoing servers. The .msmtp.log file has proven useful many times, and .msmtprc is easy to configure. Of course, it's one more piece of software on your system, but it's a good piece. Choose smtpmail if you

Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Fraga, Eric
On Thursday, 1 Aug 2019 at 16:41, Saša Janiška wrote: > Can someone more experienced tell me what do you suggest for sendming > mail from Gnus: smtpmail or msmtp? I've been using msmtp on Linux for years. Works well in my experience. -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.2.4 on Debian 10.0

Re: smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Štěpán Němec
On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 16:41:00 +0200 Saša Janiška wrote: > Hello! > > Can someone more experienced tell me what do you suggest for sendming > mail from Gnus: smtpmail or msmtp? By smtpmail you mean smtpmail.el? Can't help you there. I've been using msmtp (with Gnus and other clients) for years and

smtpmail vs msmtp

2019-08-01 Thread Saša Janiška
Hello! Can someone more experienced tell me what do you suggest for sendming mail from Gnus: smtpmail or msmtp? The former seems as natural choice, but few times I did experience that the message sent from Gnus (when using smtpmail) did not go through and for such (rare) cases I'm considering tha

Re: splitting Gmail account just copy not move :-(

2019-08-01 Thread physiculus
Eric Abrahamsen writes: > > Is that the only label it shows? What else is in the assoc list? It depends on the folder in Gmail. Sometimes it shows ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Important \\Inbox)")) or ((X-GM-LABELS . "(\\Inbox \\Sent \\Starred)")) > > And if you open the message and hit "t" (to toggle di