Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-24 Thread Emanuel Berg
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > ... I don't think that anyone doubts that you have a very solid understanding and uses Gnus with an expert's touch. Even I, compared to how people use the web GUIs, Outlook, and even Evolution, Thunderbird/Icedove, etc., the way I use Emacs Gnus compare

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-23 Thread Adam Sjøgren
Dmitrii Kashin writes: > a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> Dmitrii Kashin writes: >>> And of course this is not a good practice to use gnus for sorting >>> your mail. It is very slow and local-only. >> What works horribly for you may very well work great for the next >> guy. > This

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-13 Thread Adam Sjøgren
Emanuel Berg writes: > Then create the spam group, for example with this: You don't have to do this, it will be created when the first incoming email is split into the group. Or you can simply move a spam from one of your other groups there to create it, with B m. Best regards, Adam -

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-12 Thread Emanuel Berg
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > You can test where an existing email would be split > to by pressing B q when looking at it. > > And you can get Gnus to put it where the splitting > rules say by pressing B r. Yes, that works, and is kind of cool, too. Summary: (setq nnmail-split-meth

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-12 Thread Emanuel Berg
Dmitrii Kashin writes: >>> Can't you have it unsubscribed? >> >> I don't know. How would I do that, and what would it >> do? > > By pressing 'u' in the group buffer. Aha, of course. No, I don't think I need to do that unless I add a "spam" group. > Gnus prefers to hide articles that doesn't see

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-12 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Peter Münster writes: > On Thu, Dec 12 2013, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > >> I would like to know how you solved the problems with speed described >> above. > > With procmail Oh, got you. External fetcher. Why not? Good solution. pgpBLyXhf1mw4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-12 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, Dec 12 2013, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > I would like to know how you solved the problems with speed described > above. With procmail: --8<---cut here---start->8--- :0fw * < 30 | spamassassin :0 * ^X-Spam-Flag: YES * !^Subject:.*no-spam { :0 c

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Emanuel Berg writes: > Dmitrii Kashin writes: > >>> You mean like this? >>> >>> (setq nnmail-split-methods >>> '(("spam" "^X-Spam-Flag: YES") >>> ("mail.misc" "") )) >>> >>> I hope I won't get them in a directory called "spam", >>> now! >> >> Can't you have it unsubscribed? > > I d

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > Dmitrii Kashin writes: > >> And of course this is not a good practice to use gnus for sorting your >> mail. It is very slow and local-only. > > What works horribly for you may very well work great for the next guy. This was not emotions. I've specifical

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Emanuel Berg
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> Of course, but it doesn't do much good if the >> headers are only inserted and that will be that, >> does it? > > What else do you propose should(/suppose would) > happen? I'd like them to be deleted. But I can do that manually once in a while if it com

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Emanuel Berg
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > Using Gnus to split my email has served me great for > the past 15+ years, and I think it is a perfectly > fine practice. > > (I don't use IMAP and I prefer my email to be quick > and stored locally. How people like to handle email > varies immensely.)

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Emanuel Berg
Dmitrii Kashin writes: >> You mean like this? >> >> (setq nnmail-split-methods >> '(("spam" "^X-Spam-Flag: YES") >> ("mail.misc" "") )) >> >> I hope I won't get them in a directory called "spam", >> now! > > Can't you have it unsubscribed? I don't know. How would I do that, and wha

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Adam Sjøgren
Dmitrii Kashin writes: > And of course this is not a good practice to use gnus for sorting your > mail. It is very slow and local-only. What works horribly for you may very well work great for the next guy. Using Gnus to split my email has served me great for the past 15+ years, and I think it

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Adam Sjøgren
Emanuel Berg writes: >> Well, some system running SpamAssassin inserted those, not the >> spammers ;-) > Of course, but it doesn't do much good if the headers are only > inserted and that will be that, does it? What else do you propose should(/suppose would) happen? If the mailserver deleted t

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Emanuel Berg writes: > a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: > >> By splitting, as you would do with any other email >> you do not want in your mail.misc group. >> X-Spam-Flag: YES >> >> Maybe on this header? > > You mean like this? > > (setq nnmail-split-methods > '(("spam" "^X-Spa

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Emanuel Berg
a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes: >> I have for some reason been getting spam lately, >> even though the headers contain information it is >> spam. > > Well, some system running SpamAssassin inserted > those, not the spammers ;-) Of course, but it doesn't do much good if the headers are on

Re: Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Adam Sjøgren
Emanuel Berg writes: > I have for some reason been getting spam lately, even though the > headers contain information it is spam. Well, some system running SpamAssassin inserted those, not the spammers ;-) > If the below metadata indicates it is spam (as I think it does), how > do I tell Gnus *

Spam despite spam header

2013-12-11 Thread Emanuel Berg
I have for some reason been getting spam lately, even though the headers contain information it is spam. If the below metadata indicates it is spam (as I think it does), how do I tell Gnus *not* to put those messages in my mail.misc group? > X-Spam-Flag: YES > X-Spam-Score: 5.952 > X-Spam-Level: *