[install-discuss] Re: Re: Re: The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Dave Miner
Rainer Heilke wrote: >>> Seems odd that I can install OS on a Sun Blade 100 with 512MB RAM >>> in full graphical mode, but can't even get the text mode to work >>> on an x86 system with the same amount of memory... >> Most of the difference is directly due to running the miniroot out >> of a ramdis

[install-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Rainer Heilke
> Yes, it's all about the boot architecture. SPARC > will be doing > something similar in the not-too-distant future. So, the plans are to make the SPARC version need more memory as well? Sorry, but this seems a step backwards to me. > It's possible we can reduce it, but it requires some actua

[install-discuss] Re: Re: The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Mike Pogue
In looking through the Ubuntu graphical install (targeting novices, I think), it looks like there are very few pieces of information explicitly asked for: Language (e.g. English) Keyboard layout (e.g. US) Timezone (e.g. Americas/Los Angeles) Long name (e.g. Mickey Mouse) Login name (e.g. 'mmouse

[install-discuss] ANN: Solaris Package Companion Project Page

2006-09-06 Thread Glenn Brunette
Peter, Peter Tribble wrote: > Glenn, > > This note is to announce the new Solaris Package Companion project >> page (child of the SVR4 packaging project page) at: >> >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/svr4_packaging/package_companion/ >> >> Check it out to get all of the latest and greates

[install-discuss] Re: Re: The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Dave Miner
Rainer Heilke wrote: >> There is a secondary check for free virtual memory, of which we >> need 128 MB for the GUI, or 96 MB just to run the window system. >> Lots of things can affect free virtual memory, and more devices is >> certainly one possibility. You should still be able to run the >> t

[install-discuss] Re: Re: Re: The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Rainer Heilke
> > Seems odd that I can install OS on a Sun Blade 100 > > with 512MB RAM in full graphical mode, but can't even get the text > > mode to work on an x86 system with the same amount of memory... > > Most of the difference is directly due to running the > miniroot out of a ramdisk rather than directl

[install-discuss] The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Dave Miner
Casper.Dik at Sun.COM wrote: >> On x86, 400 MB is the minimum to run the window system on the miniroot; >> running the GUI installer under Java takes us up to about 500 MB as the >> minimum right now. Much of that excess space is a result of needing to >> unpack it onto the in-memory miniroot r

[install-discuss] Re: The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Dave Miner
Rainer Heilke wrote: > There actually seems to be something more going on to bump this > memory requirement up. I just tried installing Nevada 44 on a 512MB > system, and all three options are giving me "error 28: cannot fit > into memory" (or something close to that) when trying to load the > mini

[install-discuss] Re: Re: The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread Rainer Heilke
> There is a secondary check for free virtual memory, > of which we need 128 > MB for the GUI, or 96 MB just to run the window > system. Lots of things > can affect free virtual memory, and more devices is > certainly one > possibility. You should still be able to run the > text installer in

[install-discuss] Re: Graphical Install Experience--another perspective

2006-09-06 Thread Rainer Heilke
> Nice, thoughtful, post. Thanks. Agreed. Thank you, James. > Absolutely true. For now, we're certainly not > competing with the > Windows market for most cases, and we're expecting a > more technically > savvy audience. Nod. > > To suggest that the overall quality of Solaris > could in some wa

[install-discuss] The Graphical Install Experience (Solaris, et.al.)

2006-09-06 Thread casper....@sun.com
>On x86, 400 MB is the minimum to run the window system on the miniroot; >running the GUI installer under Java takes us up to about 500 MB as the >minimum right now. Much of that excess space is a result of needing to >unpack it onto the in-memory miniroot rather than running it off of >media

[install-discuss] Graphical Install Experience--another perspective

2006-09-06 Thread Eric J. Ray
James, Nice, thoughtful, post. Thanks. I think that you very accurately summarize the current situation...and the thinking that got us to where we are. James C. Cotillier wrote: > OS install experiences typically are targeted to the greatest common > denominator in technical expertise, across

[install-discuss] language CD request!

2006-09-06 Thread luigi vettone
Hi, when I try to install on my pc Opensolaris the installer and the end ask me Language CD. Where I can download? Bye Luigi This message posted from opensolaris.org