Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread Peter Koch
SM, > In the wake of the revelations about surveillance there has been some > concerns about RFC 6302. I would be grateful if the authors of RFC > 6302 could review the comments at > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-privacy/current/msg00454.html > and provide some feedback. not one

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi SM, On 06/17/2014 02:58 PM, S Moonesamy wrote: Hi Suresh, Juan-Carlos, At 07:36 17-06-2014, SHEPPARD, SCOTT wrote: To close this for now. I see no compelling reason to change the BCP RFC 6302. Privacy is important. But equally so is the need to protect our customers, ourselves and the popu

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi Scott, (with Chair hat on) On 06/17/2014 10:36 AM, SHEPPARD, SCOTT wrote: Folks To close this for now. I see no compelling reason to change the BCP RFC 6302. Thanks for providing your opinion. I think opinions from operators are extremely useful and helpful. Privacy is important. But

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread SHEPPARD, SCOTT
S. Moonesamy I am not going to debate with you. "Pervasive surveillance is an attack". To me this is a debate : Resolved: Pervasive surveillance is an attack. I will read and, if needed, comment where appropriate with interest RFC 7258 with a technical not political view. I thank you for br

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread Joe Touch
On 6/17/2014 11:58 AM, S Moonesamy wrote: ... Some persons raised concerns about those hums. Hums aren't votes. It might represent those in attendance - but not everyone attends meetings in general or plenaries in specific. The key to understanding a BCP is its 2119-language. Because there w

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread S Moonesamy
Hi Suresh, Juan-Carlos, At 07:36 17-06-2014, SHEPPARD, SCOTT wrote: To close this for now. I see no compelling reason to change the BCP RFC 6302. Privacy is important. But equally so is the need to protect our customers, ourselves and the population against cyber criminals and they are legion

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread SHEPPARD, SCOTT
Hello Can you be more specific in your concern? " there has been some concerns about RFC 6302" I am willing to have a go but more focused guidance is needed here. Peace Scott Sheppard LMTS AT&T ATS IPNSG 404 499 5539 desk 732 861 3383 cell ss6...@att.com email Two messages Authentic power

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread SHEPPARD, SCOTT
Folks To close this for now. I see no compelling reason to change the BCP RFC 6302. Privacy is important. But equally so is the need to protect our customers, ourselves and the population against cyber criminals and they are legion. There is a compelling need for Law Enforcement Agencies an

Re: [Int-area] Logging Recommendations for Internet-Facing Servers

2014-06-17 Thread mohamed.boucadair
Hi SM, RFC6302 should be positioned in its context: i.e., how to meet regulatory requirements in some countries when address sharing is in use. A discussion on the background (with a concise discussion on solution flavors and some hints on time duration to store log data) is available at: http