Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

Hi Joe, > -Original Message- > From: Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 2:32 PM > To: Templin, Fred L ; Lucy yong > ; Brian E Carpenter > ; int-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re:

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

Hi, Fred (et al.), On 11/30/2016 12:51 PM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > Hi Joe, > ... > I didn't mention route optimization. With AERO, route optimization is what > happens > when the tunnel ingress switches from an egress that is on a suboptimal path > to a > different egress that is on a better

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

Hi Joe, > -Original Message- > From: Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:04 PM > To: Templin, Fred L ; Lucy yong > ; Brian E Carpenter > ; int-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re:

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

Hi Joe, > -Original Message- > From: Joe Touch [mailto:to...@isi.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:33 AM > To: Templin, Fred L ; Lucy yong > ; Brian E Carpenter > ; int-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re:

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

On 11/30/2016 11:25 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Very basically, the problem being solved is an overlay network over the > Internet for inter-site tunneling between sites that may be either fixed > or mobile. That's the same problem solved by every tunnel, isn't it? There is

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

Hi Joe, Very basically, the problem being solved is an overlay network over the Internet for inter-site tunneling between sites that may be either fixed or mobile. Is this what you are looking for, or do you want specific use cases? Thanks - Fred > -Original Message- > From: Joe Touch

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

Hi, Fred, et al., On 11/30/2016 9:35 AM, Templin, Fred L wrote: > How would people feel about seeing draft-templin-aerolink become an intarea > document? In one sense, every IP over X tunnel proposal could be an INTAREA doc, but the bigger question is "what problem is being solved" that is

Re: [Int-area] AD sponsoring draft-bchv-rfc6890bis-02

This was discussed in the 6man session at IETF96. See: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-6man-4.pdf Minutes, audio, video: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/6man.html Bob > On Nov 29, 2016, at 8:36 PM, Suresh Krishnan > wrote: > > Hi

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

> I'm also quite unable to know how to position this proposal compared to > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-templin-aerolink which has > been in development for several years. They seem to tackle some of the same > problems. > [Lucy] In fact, Fred informed us about draft-templin-aerolink

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

Hi, Tom, On 11/30/2016 8:08 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Joe Touch wrote: >> Hi, Tom, >> >> >> On 11/29/2016 12:56 PM, Tom Herbert wrote: >>> This is why we like DTLS as opposed to IPsec, to the network this just >>> looks like UDP which presumably is

Re: [Int-area] Some thoughts on draft-yong-intarea-inter-sites-over-tunnels

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Joe Touch wrote: > Hi, Tom, > > > On 11/29/2016 12:56 PM, Tom Herbert wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Joe Touch wrote: >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> >>> On 11/29/2016 11:43 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >>> >>> >> I also