[Int-area] Wrapping up post IESG evaluation discussions on draft-ietf-intarea-frag-fragile

2019-10-01 Thread Suresh Krishnan
Hi all, The text changes in version -16 of this draft for the resolution of Alissa Cooper’s DISCUSS position resulted in lively discussion on the mailing list. The authors have made another revision of the draft (version -17) to address the comments raised during this discussion. If you believ

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-hbh-destopt-00.txt

2019-10-01 Thread Ole Troan
>> Taking "the IPsec approach" would be creating a new extension header >> and code point that is unique to IPv4-- I don't see how that's any >> better than just using an existing EH defined for IPv6. > > I'm not sure I agree with that. > > When we added IPsec to IPv4, a system that didn't imple

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-hbh-destopt-00.txt

2019-10-01 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 8:38 AM Fred Baker wrote: > > > > On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > > Taking "the IPsec approach" would be creating a new extension header > > and code point that is unique to IPv4-- I don't see how that's any > > better than just using an existing EH define

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-hbh-destopt-00.txt

2019-10-01 Thread Fred Baker
On Oct 1, 2019, at 11:14 AM, Tom Herbert wrote: > Taking "the IPsec approach" would be creating a new extension header > and code point that is unique to IPv4-- I don't see how that's any > better than just using an existing EH defined for IPv6. I'm not sure I agree with that. When we added

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-hbh-destopt-00.txt

2019-10-01 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 7:45 AM Joe Touch wrote: > > > > > On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:45 AM, Frank Brockners (fbrockne) > > wrote: > > > > Expanding from Bob's preference: IMHO it would make sense to explore what > > we can solve with extension headers (HbyH and DO) - rather than argue the > > past o

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-hbh-destopt-00.txt

2019-10-01 Thread Joe Touch
> On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:45 AM, Frank Brockners (fbrockne) > wrote: > > Expanding from Bob's preference: IMHO it would make sense to explore what we > can solve with extension headers (HbyH and DO) - rather than argue the past > or judge from the past. Hardware is changing - and what used to b

Re: [Int-area] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-ipv4-hbh-destopt-00.txt

2019-10-01 Thread Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
Expanding from Bob's preference: IMHO it would make sense to explore what we can solve with extension headers (HbyH and DO) - rather than argue the past or judge from the past. Hardware is changing - and what used to be the case, does not necessarily hold true in present or the future. Back in