Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Tom, > -Original Message- > From: Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 1:47 PM > To: Robinson, Herbie > Cc: Templin (US), Fred L ; int-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: IP Parcels improves performance for > end systems > > EXT em

Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:40 AM Robinson, Herbie wrote: > > > The nice thing about TSO/GSO/GRO is that they don't require any > > changes to the protocol as just implementation techniques, also > > they're one sided opitmizations meaning for instance that TSO can be > > used at the sender without

Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Thanks for these thoughts, Herbie, and see below for follow-up: Fred > -Original Message- > From: Robinson, Herbie [mailto:herbie.robin...@stratus.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 12:58 PM > To: Templin (US), Fred L ; int-area@ietf.org > Subject: RE: IP Parcels improves performance fo

Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Robinson, Herbie
I think this is a really good idea; although, it could be a bridge too far. It certainly won’t get implemented quickly. I still remember implementing path MTU discovery thinking about the big performance win I was going to get in IPv6 from 9K packets (vs 1500 byte packets) only to discover tha

Re: [Int-area] [EXTERNAL] Re: IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Robinson, Herbie
> The nice thing about TSO/GSO/GRO is that they don't require any > changes to the protocol as just implementation techniques, also > they're one sided opitmizations meaning for instance that TSO can be > used at the sender without requiring GRO to be used at the receiver. > My understanding is tha

Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Tom, see below: > -Original Message- > From: Tom Herbert [mailto:t...@herbertland.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 10:00 AM > To: Templin (US), Fred L > Cc: Eggert, Lars ; int-area@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems > > On Tue, Mar 22,

Re: [Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Tom Herbert
On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 7:42 AM Templin (US), Fred L wrote: > > Lars, I did a poor job of answering your question. One of the most important > aspects of > > IP Parcels in relation to TSO and GSO/GRO is that transports get to use a > full 4MB buffer > > instead of the 64KB limit in current pract

[Int-area] IP Parcels improves performance for end systems

2022-03-22 Thread Templin (US), Fred L
Lars, I did a poor job of answering your question. One of the most important aspects of IP Parcels in relation to TSO and GSO/GRO is that transports get to use a full 4MB buffer instead of the 64KB limit in current practices. This is possible due to the IP Parcel jumbo payload option encapsulati

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