Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-06 Thread John C. Turnbull
Just out of interest, has anyone within the Qt community or company considered Vulkan? It looks to me as though the future of low level graphics APIs is not OpenGL or Direct3D or Metal. It's Vulkan. > On 6 Jul 2016, at 17:53, Kai Koehne wrote: > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: I

Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-06 Thread John C. Turnbull
Thanks - great to hear! I am a firm believer in the significance that Vulkan will play in the future of GPU based applications. > On 6 Jul 2016, at 18:33, Dmitry Volosnykh wrote: > > John, here you are: https://blog.qt.io/?s=vulkan&lang=en > >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2

Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-06 Thread John C. Turnbull
e. -jct > On 6 Jul 2016, at 20:26, Sean Harmer wrote: > > > >> On 06/07/2016 10:41, John C. Turnbull wrote: >> Thanks - great to hear! >> >> I am a firm believer in the significance that Vulkan will play in the future >> of GPU based applications.

Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
I am still new to Qt but am very interested in the technology and the deep innards of how it functions. I have worked in a 3D animation studio and learned a lot while I was there. Is there documentation or articles that: 1) Describe in detail how the Qt Quick rendering pipeline is designed and

Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-11 Thread John C. Turnbull
Anyone? > On 10 Jul 2016, at 23:23, John C. Turnbull wrote: > > I am still new to Qt but am very interested in the technology and the deep > innards of how it functions. I have worked in a 3D animation studio and > learned a lot while I was there. > > Is there documenta

Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-11 Thread John C. Turnbull
t; questions: > > http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-visualcanvas-scenegraph.html > http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtquick-visualcanvas-scenegraph-renderer.html > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Interest [mailto:interest-bounces+mitch.curtis=qt...@qt-project.org] >> On Behalf

Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-12 Thread John C. Turnbull
It's OK - they "do no evil" ;-) > On 12 Jul 2016, at 17:01, alexander golks wrote: > > Am Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:53:25 +1000 > schrieb "John C. Turnbull" : > >> Thanks. I never thought of using Google ;-) >> >> Sadly Google show

Re: [Interest] Utilizing the GPU, how to start?

2016-07-12 Thread John C. Turnbull
Thanks very much Sze - they all look very helpful. Qt is awesome. But it can be "awesomer" ;-) > On 12 Jul 2016, at 19:41, Sze Howe Koh wrote: > >> On 12 July 2016 at 14:53, John C. Turnbull wrote: >> Thanks. I never thought of using Google ;-) >> >> S

Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-10-03 Thread John C. Turnbull
It's ironic in a way that every major graphical toolkit (and with many large software projects in general) that I've worked with over decades now, the attitude has commonly seemed to have been that "new" is better than "stable". The end result is a product full of both older and newer unstable f

Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-10-04 Thread John C. Turnbull
Thiago, with all due respect, and I'm very aware of the significant contribution you personally have made to both the Qt product and the community, there is clearly a high degree of dissatisfaction with various aspects of Qt and the management of the SDLC. Your comments may be accurate but I'm

Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-10-04 Thread John C. Turnbull
aking. If that's the case then, again, I am sorry and please direct me to a more appropriate forum. To summarise, I am speaking from the perspective of a paying customer of a commercial entity. And I suspect I am not the only one. > On 5 Oct. 2016, at 10:09, Thiago Macieira wrote: >

Re: [Interest] What don't you like about Qt?

2016-10-05 Thread John C. Turnbull
What SLAs or kinds of responses should I expect then? > On 5 Oct. 2016, at 18:07, Thiago Macieira wrote: > > Em quarta-feira, 5 de outubro de 2016, às 10:33:37 CEST, John C. Turnbull > escreveu: >> Thiago, it seems you have taken my comments as a personal attack on you and >>

[Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-11 Thread John C. Turnbull
I am just trying out the "nano browser" in Qt 5.5 on Windows 7 64-bit and find it almost unusable. Loading *any* website is slow but it is particularly noticeable with Google Maps. It can take more than a minute to render the initial map and then zooming in first shows just a scaled and pixela

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-14 Thread John C. Turnbull
roject.org [mailto:interest-bounces+ozemale=ozemail.com...@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of John C. Turnbull Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 5:41 AM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5 I am just trying out the "nano browser" in Qt 5.5

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
Anyone??? From: John C. Turnbull [mailto:ozem...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 7:31 AM To: 'interest@qt-project.org' Subject: RE: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5 Importance: High Hasn't anyone else tried out the WebEngineView in

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
rsday 18 June 2015, John C. Turnbull wrote: > Anyone??? > > > > From: John C. Turnbull [mailto:ozem...@ozemail.com.au] > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 7:31 AM > To: 'interest@qt-project.org' > Subject: RE: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser perf

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
Xeons and 64G of RAM and a Quadro FX 5800 GPU. The browser performance is absolutely woeful to the point of being unusable. From: Mark Langezaal [mailto:mark.langez...@xs4all.nl] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:11 PM To: John C. Turnbull; interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5 On 6/18/2015 5:38 PM, John C. Turnbull wrote: > All I am doing is running the WebEngine Tab Browser example from > Creator > 3.4.0 which comes with the version of Qt that I downloaded which is > 5.5.0

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
Kelkar [mailto:yuvr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 12:39 PM To: John C. Turnbull Cc: rpzrpz...@gmail.com; Interests Qt Subject: Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5 If you have a sample application, I can compile for Mac windows and Linux and try it out. On

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-19 Thread John C. Turnbull
process to see detailed views of thread performance, GPU usages, context switches and so on. See if you can spot some irregularities. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 10:18 AM, John C. Turnbull mailto:ozem...@ozemail.com.au> > wrote: Well, as I said, I am using the example apps that come with Qt

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-20 Thread John C. Turnbull
minutes to load the initial map and then taking minutes to fully respond to zoom events. What the hell is going on here? From: interest-bounces+ozemale=ozemail.com...@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+ozemale=ozemail.com...@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of John C. Turnbull Sent: Saturday

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5

2015-06-22 Thread John C. Turnbull
a 256K dial-up modem (instead of the 120Mbps cable modem I am actually using). Thanks, -jct -Original Message- From: Joerg Bornemann [mailto:joerg.bornem...@theqtcompany.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:55 AM To: John C. Turnbull; 'Shantanu Tushar' Cc: 'Interests Qt'

Re: [Interest] Extremely sluggish browser performance in Qt 5.5 - [SOLVED]

2015-06-25 Thread John C. Turnbull
te: > > Am 23.06.2015 um 03:14 schrieb John C. Turnbull : > > > > It seems that the "problem" exists in 5.4.2 as well so it's > > definitely not a regression. > > Sorry, just a shot into the blue here. Maybe the problem has to do > with how Qt inte

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-07 Thread John C. Turnbull
Ok, this is all very confusing for me. I am just starting out with Qt and am using the LGPL edition. What are my limitations with that? It costs me nothing but do I have to distribute my source code along with the app and am I missing out on features and/or the ability to sell my app on iOS or

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-07 Thread John C. Turnbull
is not advice, but it's what I would do. > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 at 3:11 PM > From: "John C. Turnbull" > To: "Ben Lau" > Cc: "interest@qt-project.org" > Subject: Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated? > Ok, this

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-07 Thread John C. Turnbull
ed in. This is not advice, but it's what I would do. > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 07, 2015 at 3:11 PM > *From:* "John C. Turnbull" > *To:* "Ben Lau" > *Cc:* "interest@qt-project.org" > *Subject:* Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated? >

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-07 Thread John C. Turnbull
ning your UI, they will only get so far. I personally like ot >>> be on the side of one app one look for all platforms. >>> >>> Native access is supported on iOS and Android. Their usual caveats apply. >>> >>> Yes, sometimes not at the rate you want. B

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
t;> md >> >> >>> On 7/7/2015 1:36 PM, Jason H wrote: >>> 1. Consult your laywer. >>> 2. But there is some question if LGPL apps are allowed in the App stores. >>> 3. I'd get the Indie Mobile for $25/25 (I forget) before August 31 and get >&g

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
just a few of the resulting apps make it in the big time with massive sales. It's a win-win-win-win situation! -jct > On 10 Jul 2015, at 18:13, John C. Turnbull wrote: > > Here's something out of left field... > > How about you give everyone access to the full comme

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
rs distribution > companies that they sell to final consumer !! How can you ask me to pay a > percentage of revenue ?? > > Ciao, > Gianluca. > > >> On 10 Jul 2015, at 09:35, John C. Turnbull wrote: >> >> Even better... >> >> Have ONE Qt product wh

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
Read my modified suggestion. Qt makes money out of everyone regardless of sales but the point is that everyone can afford to use it. > On 11 Jul 2015, at 02:58, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >> On Friday 10 July 2015 18:13:59 John C. Turnbull wrote: >> How about you give ever

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
Yeah but I am adding royalties. > On 11 Jul 2015, at 03:00, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >> On Friday 10 July 2015 18:35:24 John C. Turnbull wrote: >> Have ONE Qt product which includes all the bells and whistles and all the >> ports but TWO licenses; an in-house license f

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
But you're just focusing on the indie license. I am not even talking about an indie license, just an in-house license and a commercial license. > On 11 Jul 2015, at 03:09, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >> On Saturday 11 July 2015 03:03:16 John C. Turnbull wrote: >> Yeah bu

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
.@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 5:36 AM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated? On Saturday 11 July 2015 03:12:05 John C. Turnbull wrote: > But you're just focusing on the indie license. I am not ev

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
John C. Turnbull wrote: > That's why you don't charge anywhere near $350/month/developer. > That's the whole problem I am trying to solve. Most indie, small and > moderate businesses simply can't afford that. But you're not only not solving it, you'

[Interest] Qt mobile apps v native

2015-07-10 Thread John C. Turnbull
Amongst all the debate around the Indie license, some mention was made of Qt Mobile not quite "being ready yet". So, for someone considering Qt for lots of things including mobile, could someone please answer these questions for me: 1. Which Qt features do not currently work on iOS or Android?

Re: [Interest] Qt mobile apps v native

2015-07-11 Thread John C. Turnbull
Thanks, but I would still appreciate someone answering all my questions if possible… From: Dmitry Volosnykh [mailto:dmitry.volosn...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 3:11 PM To: John C. Turnbull Cc: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Qt mobile apps v native John

Re: [Interest] Qt mobile apps v native

2015-07-11 Thread John C. Turnbull
Thanks very much Jason for this helpful info. When I asked this question, I was referring to the times you want to embed a web browser in your app. I believe in both iOS and Android you are forced to use the native browser so how can you integrate that effectively into your scene graph if you w

[Interest] Performance of Qt scripting on iOS

2015-07-14 Thread John C. Turnbull
It's well known that iOS does not support executable memory which means that any scripting language would not be able to use a JIT compiler. Given this, wouldn't it mean that Qt's JavaScript implementation would run like a one legged dog on this platform and therefore be practically unusable? -

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
The problem even with this extension for the Indie Program is that it *only* allows you to use Qt to develop *mobile* apps. The appeal of Qt is its cross-platform ability but if you are using it *just* for mobiles then you will get a better result with a framework designed specifically for mobiles

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
e that discover Qt too late to buy into Indie. Cheers, md On 7/17/2015 9:04 PM, John C. Turnbull wrote: > The problem even with this extension for the Indie Program is that it > *only* allows you to use Qt to develop *mobile* apps. The appeal of > Qt is its cross-platform ability but i

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-17 Thread John C. Turnbull
Meaning I can sell the desktop apps without having to distribute my code and into the Windows and Mac App Stores (WITHOUT having to pay my lawyer thousands)? > On 18 Jul 2015, at 16:43, Thiago Macieira wrote: > >> On Saturday 18 July 2015 13:04:45 John C. Turnbull wrote: >>

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
The new licensing structure (and not to mention the abominable website) are clearly NOT working and will only hurt Qt, perhaps even kill it. It shows how out-of-touch the Qt Company's executives are with their actual customers now. This is common as companies grow larger and more successful. Ple

Re: [Interest] Indie Mobil Program terminated?

2015-07-18 Thread John C. Turnbull
gt; But there is safe haven in the current Indie license and that is where I have > chosen to hide. > > Cheers, > > md > >> On 7/17/2015 10:55 PM, John C. Turnbull wrote: >> Dear md, >> >> That's all well and good re using native compilers but (fro

[Interest] Qt integration with Unity?

2015-08-31 Thread John C. Turnbull
I seem to remember hearing or reading somewhere that Qt 5.5 or beyond would permit integration with Unity. 1. Is this correct? 2. What type of integration is possible? 3. How is that integration done? Thanks, -jct __

Re: [Interest] Qt integration with Unity?

2015-08-31 Thread John C. Turnbull
Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:17 AM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Qt integration with Unity? On Tuesday 01 September 2015 08:10:29 John C. Turnbull wrote: > I seem to remember hearing or reading somewhere that Qt 5.5 or beyond > would permit integ

[Interest] Issues with HTTPS, Google Maps, SSL, proxy & Qt 5.1

2013-07-19 Thread John C. Turnbull
My very first attempt at getting something up and running with Qt involved trying to display Google Maps in a WebView with Qt 5.1 but it doesn't work. The web browser component opens up but displays nothing. It seems to be an issue with HTTPS. One suggestion was to try installing OpenSSL a

[Interest] FW: Issues with HTTPS, Google Maps, SSL, proxy & Qt 5.1

2013-07-19 Thread John C. Turnbull
Has anyone actually managed to get Google Maps to display in a WebView? If so, could you please describe what needs to be done to get it to work? My attempts are failing miserably :( Thanks, -jct From: John C. Turnbull [mailto:ozem...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 23:07

[Interest] WebView in Qt 5.1 - first impressions

2013-07-20 Thread John C. Turnbull
Now that I have WebView successfully displaying Google Maps in Qt 5.1 I thought I would share my first impressions. For a start, it seems to be way slower than Firefox or any other standard browser on this machine. When I open Google Maps in Firefox, the entire page is loaded and rendered in ab

Re: [Interest] WebView in Qt 5.1 - first impressions

2013-07-21 Thread John C. Turnbull
the behavioural quirks I referred to? I will take your advice regarding loading the WebView on application start up. Thanks, -jct From: speedin...@hotmail.com [mailto:speedin...@hotmail.com] On Behalf Of Morgan McKenzie Sent: Sunday, 21 July 2013 12:14 To: John C. Turnbull; interest

Re: [Interest] WebView in Qt 5.1 - first impressions

2013-07-23 Thread John C. Turnbull
ch is what Firefox would do? Try clearing Firefox's cache and then compare performance with an empty cache. On 7/21/2013 7:06 PM, John C. Turnbull wrote: Hi Morgan, Yes, I was comparing apples and oranges as you say but even when I launch the WebView with some other initial URL and then n

Re: [Interest] Native text rendering in Qt 5.1 on Windows

2013-08-21 Thread John C. Turnbull
Thanks Joseph but that link doesn't answer my question as to how the native text is actually rendered i.e. what library/technology. I would like to know because my (limited) understanding of Qt is that it uses OpenGL for graphics (even on Windows) and, given that OpenGL does not have any native

Re: [Interest] Native text rendering in Qt 5.1 on Windows

2013-08-21 Thread John C. Turnbull
re of the status of that. -ak From: interest-bounces+andrew.knight=digia@qt-project.org [interest-bounces+andrew.knight=digia@qt-project.org] on behalf of John C. Turnbull [ozem...@ozemail.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:02 PM To: