Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-11 Thread Knight Andrew
> The alternative is to put this code inside qmake itself, so no new binary > is created. This has the advantage that several Qt classes are already > bootstrapped, including the filesystem engine. A bit late to the conversation, but wouldn't a nice first step / middle ground be modifying qtsync

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Christoph Cullmann
Hi, > 1) the overwhelming majority of Windows downloads are of the pre-compiled >binaries and have been for as long as I can remember, so we will continue >to invest time to make that better, easier, more efficient >That's why we're now going to ship an MSVC2012 64-bit build, a non-ANG

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 21.54.29, Michael Jackson wrote: > So we have to move include files around during the build because command > line lengths are too long? I have never understood why the header for > QString isn't QString.h. Why is it qstring.h? The header is qstring.h because i

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 17.37.02, Thiago Macieira wrote: > The alternative is to put this code inside qmake itself, so no new binary > is created. This has the advantage that several Qt classes are already > bootstrapped, including the filesystem engine. Uh... oops. Chicken-and-the-e

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
ichael Jackson > Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:31 PM > To: interest@qt-project.org > Subject: Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is > still important) > > > On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Thiago Macieira > wrote: > >&

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
nterest-bounces+scott=onshorecs@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Michael Jackson Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:31 PM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important) On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Thiago Macieira

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Michael Jackson
On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:37 PM, Thiago Macieira wrote: > Yes, there's a way. To tell you the truth, I was wondering if it could be > done > in C++ with only the Standard Library. I've recently done that (qtchooser) > and > it wasn't very pleasant. And especially there's one snag for Windows: li

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 19.28.10, Justin Ferguson wrote: > > that make sense on Windows must be implemented on Windows before they are > > accepted. Any changes made >anywhere must not break the build >on Windows > > please accept this criticism as earnest, heartfelt and with the best

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
st-bounces+scott.bloom=onshorecs@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+scott.bloom=onshorecs@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:37 PM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
On quarta-feira, 10 de abril de 2013 23.03.53, Scott Aron Bloom wrote: > Do you have a specification for what the perl script is required to do? "Use the source, Luke!" ? :-) Basically, it needs to scan all the *.h files in a given directory and partially interpret the C++ class declarations in

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Justin Ferguson
hi, On Apr 10, 2013 5:50 PM, "Thiago Macieira" wrote: > > First of all, let me apologise for my behaviour in the thread on "dependency > bloat". I've re-read my first reply and it was clearly out of line. And the > number of off-ML messages I got also indicates that. same. > So, my deepest apol

Re: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Scott Aron Bloom
horecs@qt-project.org [mailto:interest-bounces+scott.bloom=onshorecs@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Thiago Macieira Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:50 PM To: interest@qt-project.org Subject: [Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important) First of all

[Interest] Apologies on the "bloat" thread (a.k.a yes Windows is still important)

2013-04-10 Thread Thiago Macieira
First of all, let me apologise for my behaviour in the thread on "dependency bloat". I've re-read my first reply and it was clearly out of line. And the number of off-ML messages I got also indicates that. So, my deepest apologies for letting my personal feelings and frustrations with Windows g