On Wed, 24 May 2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
> This situation is just like the one where we had to fix reference stuff
> as we found out that it indeed was causing SEGVs in certain situations.
> And i want to provide such situations and i want that at nearly all
> costs because i do not want to have
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From: "Sara Golemon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Jasper Bryant-Greene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] How critical does a bug need to be to warrant a
That's because there wasn't one...
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From: "Wez Furlong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Zeev Suraski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Marcus Boerger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] ze1 compatibility mode
FWIW, I don't remember a
What if it requires a PHP script flaw also (like calling a method from
an object that doesn't exist)? I can shut down many a site that have
5.1.4 if I can find some input to expose a script flaw like that, if
their setup is similar to mine (which I think is common). Damn search
engine came across
I can't find any references to a discussion on this either.
This change was also on the list for 6 and has been completed, would that
not be a better time to do this?
-bok
On 5/26/06, Marcus Boerger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello Zeev,
Thursday, May 25, 2006, 11:51:44 PM, you wrote:
> At
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Would you care to elaborate? Maybe a sample script that exhibits this
behaviour?
Jasper
steve wrote:
> What if it requires a PHP script flaw also (like calling a method from
> an object that doesn't exist)? I can shut down many a site that have
What if it requires a PHP script flaw also (like calling a method from
an object that doesn't exist)? I can shut down many a site that have
5.1.4 if I can find some input to expose a script flaw like that, if
their setup is similar to mine (which I think is common). Damn search
engine came across
On 5/26/06, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How critical does a bug need to be to warrant a new PHP release (like
5.1.5)? Are there specific criteria already laid out?
Security issues or critical bugs (for example segfaults or huge leaks
not managed by the memory manager). Ilia will certainly
How critical does a bug need to be to warrant a new PHP release (like
5.1.5)? Are there specific criteria already laid out?
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FWIW, I don't remember a discussion on this for PHP 5 either.
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On 5/25/06, Zeev Suraski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 23:44 25/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>Hello Zeev,
>
>Thursday, May 25, 2006, 1:04:59 PM, you wrote:
>
> > At 21:29 23/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
> >>Hello Zeev,
> >
Hello Zeev,
actually there is a student working on a pre-processor for his summer
of code project. And that will most likely cover versioning, too.
best regards
marcus
Friday, May 26, 2006, 4:06:00 AM, you wrote:
> I read it as if it was declare() ;)
> I agree with Pierre that the best way t
I read it as if it was declare() ;)
I agree with Pierre that the best way to handle BC break is not to
introduce it, but since that's not always 100% possible, this may
make sense. Of course, it'll only work with stuff that is
syntax-compliant with the currently running PHP version, but that
actaully it should have been declare() - as I think the syntax for that
almost works already, but yes, code doesnt get compiled if it's inside a
block.
Regards
Alan
Zeev Suraski wrote:
> At 03:57 26/05/2006, Alan Knowles wrote:
>> Can we start concentrating on finding a real solution to BC breaks
At 03:57 26/05/2006, Alan Knowles wrote:
Can we start concentrating on finding a real solution to BC breaks
rather than throwing them out there and everyone complaining?
define(php5) {
stuff that breaks in php6
}
define(php6) {
stuff that doesnt work in PHP5
}
What's the semantics of tha
On 5/26/06, Alan Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Can we start concentrating on finding a real solution to BC breaks
rather than throwing them out there and everyone complaining?
The most important point to discuss for any BC break is about why
introduce it. Purity and OO compliance are not g
Can we start concentrating on finding a real solution to BC breaks
rather than throwing them out there and everyone complaining?
define(php5) {
stuff that breaks in php6
}
define(php6) {
stuff that doesnt work in PHP5
}
It would be nice to back port this to PHP4, but at least make the futu
Hello Zeev,
Thursday, May 25, 2006, 11:51:44 PM, you wrote:
> At 23:44 25/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>>Hello Zeev,
>>
>>Thursday, May 25, 2006, 1:04:59 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> > At 21:29 23/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>> >>Hello Zeev,
>> >>
>> >>See here: http://oss.backendmedia.com/PhP52
>>
At 23:44 25/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
Hello Zeev,
Thursday, May 25, 2006, 1:04:59 PM, you wrote:
> At 21:29 23/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>>Hello Zeev,
>>
>>See here: http://oss.backendmedia.com/PhP52
>> 12. 4. Drop ZE1 compatibility Done (marcus)
> (Sorry for the slow response, I
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Edin Kadribasic wrote:
> Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
>> Christian Schneider wrote:
>>
>>> PS: There are no plans to make non-static calls to static methods
>>> illegal, right?
>>
>> What is the point in that? What advantage do you get using
>> $th
Hello Zeev,
Thursday, May 25, 2006, 1:04:59 PM, you wrote:
> At 21:29 23/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
>>Hello Zeev,
>>
>>See here: http://oss.backendmedia.com/PhP52
>> 12. 4. Drop ZE1 compatibility Done (marcus)
> (Sorry for the slow response, I'm traveling)
> Yeah that's fine, but it was
At 21:29 23/05/2006, Marcus Boerger wrote:
Hello Zeev,
See here: http://oss.backendmedia.com/PhP52
12. 4. Drop ZE1 compatibility Done (marcus)
(Sorry for the slow response, I'm traveling)
Yeah that's fine, but it was never discussed at all let alone decided
upon... IMHO it doesn't make
Artzi, Yoav (Yoav) wrote:
I am looking for a good place to learn about the following:
1. Writing a customized extension
2. Compiling PHP with customized extensions, including how can I set up
a customized location their code and what I should add to the configure
line and such
Any good tutorial
Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
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Christian Schneider wrote:
PS: There are no plans to make non-static calls to static methods
illegal, right?
What is the point in that? What advantage do you get using
$this->someMethodName() [non-static call] ov
Marcus Boerger wrote:
There are no static methods in PHP 4.
Of course there are. You just don't need to declare them as static. You
know, there used to be a time where not everything needed to be declared
in PHP.
Edin
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Index: main/php.h
===
RCS file: /repository/php-src/main/php.h,v
retrieving revision 1.221.2.
Actually it's the other way arround. /Ox turns on all optimizations.
Without it the file compiles fine.
- Frank
>
> /Ox turns off optimizations. Basically _scan has overrun the
optimization
> buffer allocated at compile time. I'm not aware of any way to increase
> it, and I don't believe tur
Any good tutorials out there?
http://www.zend.com/php/internals/extension-writing1.php
After that, download the php source and look at existing extensions in
the ext directory. For each macro or function you want to know about
try googling with the 'site:' directive. For example:
site:http
I am looking for a good place to learn about the following:
1. Writing a customized extension
2. Compiling PHP with customized extensions, including how can I set up
a customized location their code and what I should add to the configure
line and such
Any good tutorials out there?
http://www
On Thu, 25 May 2006 16:58:04 +0300
"Artzi, Yoav (Yoav)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking for a good place to learn about the following:
> 1. Writing a customized extension
> 2. Compiling PHP with customized extensions, including how can I set up
> a customized location their code and what
On Thu, 2006-05-25 at 14:53 +0200, Marcus Boerger wrote:
> There is no way you can write heavy oo using code that supports PHP 4
> and PHP 5.2 without a version check every here and there, so i don't see
> this as an argument. It is a fact that 4 and 5 have very different object
> models.
Sort of.
Hi Derick,
These are the optimization options:
/O1 minimize space /Op[-] improve floating-pt
consistency
/O2 maximize speed /Os favor code space
/Oa assume no aliasing /Ot favor code speed
/Ob inline expansion (default n=0)/Ow assu
i would check out Sara Golemon's book Extending and Embedding PHP
it is not yet released but due out soon. I have it pre-ordered.
It's supposed to be a good starting point for this stuff.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/067232704X/sr=8-1/qid=1148565631/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-6678673-7532040?%5Fencod
Hello Yoav,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/067232704X
+
http://talks.somabo.de
+
some zend tutorials :-)
best regards
marcus
Thursday, May 25, 2006, 3:58:04 PM, you wrote:
> I am looking for a good place to learn about the following:
> 1. Writing a customized extension
> 2. Compiling PHP with
I am looking for a good place to learn about the following:
1. Writing a customized extension
2. Compiling PHP with customized extensions, including how can I set up
a customized location their code and what I should add to the configure
line and such
Any good tutorials out there?
Thanks.
Hello Christian,
Thursday, May 25, 2006, 3:39:02 PM, you wrote:
> Marcus Boerger wrote:
>> There is no way you can write heavy oo using code that supports PHP 4
>> and PHP 5.2 without a version check every here and there, so i don't see
> I'm not talking about heavy OO code. Just very basic one
Jasper Bryant-Greene wrote:
Christian Schneider wrote:
PS: There are no plans to make non-static calls to static methods
illegal, right?
What is the point in that? What advantage do you get using
$this->someMethodName() [non-static call] over self::someMethodName()
[static call]?
self:: does
Marcus Boerger wrote:
There is no way you can write heavy oo using code that supports PHP 4
and PHP 5.2 without a version check every here and there, so i don't see
I'm not talking about heavy OO code. Just very basic one which static
methods are used as sort-of namespaces. And that works perf
On 5/25/06, Derick Rethans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I do not want to take unilateral decisions but I do want the
> best possible extension.
You're making those anyway as you're committing patches that you *know*
I was opposed to without discussing them further.
Which discssions are you re
On Wed, 24 May 2006, Pierre wrote:
> I like to take over the development and continue my good work on this
> extension,is there any objections?
Yes, you can discuss your patches just like you expect anybody else does
for patches against the extension that you maintain.
> I do not want to take u
Hello Christian,
Thursday, May 25, 2006, 1:47:24 PM, you wrote:
> One caveat with making a static call to a non-static function a fatal
> error is that it will make use of static calls impossible for code which
> wants to be PHP4 and PHP6 compatible, no? You probably don't care but I
> still w
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Christian Schneider wrote:
> PS: There are no plans to make non-static calls to static methods
> illegal, right?
What is the point in that? What advantage do you get using
$this->someMethodName() [non-static call] over self::someMethodName()
[sta
One caveat with making a static call to a non-static function a fatal
error is that it will make use of static calls impossible for code which
wants to be PHP4 and PHP6 compatible, no? You probably don't care but I
still wanted to mention it.
E_STRICT is nice for people who are able to move th
Thanks for the guess. But when one of these parameters is wrong, PHP
engine specifically says so. My configuratin options for php build are
--with-apxs2=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs --enable-embed=static
--with-zlib --enable-debug. I use phpize with the extension. So, this
automatically makes t
On Wed, 24 May 2006, Frank M. Kromann wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My hard disk crashed over the weekend and after reinstalling everything on
> a new drive I'm getting the folowing error:
>
> c:\php\php5_2\ext\date\lib\parse_date.re(759) : fatal error C1053: '_scan'
> : function too large
> NMAKE : f
Sara Golemon wrote:
I have an extension that interfaces with a
library that sets a signal handler for some
common signals. In particular the library
forks processes and does socket writes
so it needs to be able to handle SIGCHLD
and SIGPIPE. It also registers some other
signals for debugging purp
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