On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:52:31 +0200, Pierre Joye wrote:
We thought there was no need to over regulate this part.
It is something like mentors, if you just come in, post a couple of
times or daily but nobody can second you and you lead zero OSS project,
then the chance that you can vote will
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:30 AM, Sanford Whiteman
swhitemanlistens-softw...@cypressintegrated.com wrote:
Right now strtr('anything', 'anything', '') === 'anything', which
means that anyone relying on this behavior is doing something strange
and dumb imo, doing a function call for nothing.
How
Am 22.06.2011 07:24, schrieb Tomas Kuliavas:
2011.06.21 23:27 Reindl Harald rašė:
i do not understand any word and miss a simple str_is_utf8()
Such function uses six lines in PHP.
so why do you not post them?
You can write your own.
no i can not as said
I need locale insensitive
Em Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:14:40 +0100, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
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Am 22.06.2011 07:24, schrieb Tomas Kuliavas:
2011.06.21 23:27 Reindl Harald rašė:
i do not understand any word and miss a simple str_is_utf8()
Such function uses six lines in PHP.
so why do you not post
Am 22.06.2011 14:14, schrieb Gustavo Lopes:
Em Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:14:40 +0100, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
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Am 22.06.2011 07:24, schrieb Tomas Kuliavas:
2011.06.21 23:27 Reindl Harald rašė:
i do not understand any word and miss a simple str_is_utf8()
Such function uses
2011/6/22 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net:
WTF should this do?
this won't return boolean
It's an expression, so its evaluated result is a boolean hence why it
makes sense
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Em Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:21:10 +0100, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
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Am 22.06.2011 14:14, schrieb Gustavo Lopes:
It's actually 3 lines:
function str_is_utf8($str) {
return $str == || htmlspecialchars($str, 0, UTF-8);
}
WTF should this do?
this won't return boolean
Am 22.06.2011 15:30, schrieb Gustavo Lopes:
Em Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:21:10 +0100, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net
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Am 22.06.2011 14:14, schrieb Gustavo Lopes:
It's actually 3 lines:
function str_is_utf8($str) {
return $str == || htmlspecialchars($str, 0, UTF-8);
}
Am 22.06.2011 15:40, schrieb Reindl Harald:
and why this will not return true if $str is ISO-8859-1?
If you RTFM (in your jargon) you would know.
http://ch.php.net/manual/en/function.htmlspecialchars.php (Return value
Section)
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and why this will not return true if $str is ISO-8859-1?
For lower 7 bit characters (code points = 127) it would return true.
But if there is a single higher character (outside of ascii), it would
only return true if the byte sequences follow UTF-8 semantics. So it
would return false if
Am 22.06.2011 15:45, schrieb Lars Schultz:
Am 22.06.2011 15:40, schrieb Reindl Harald:
and why this will not return true if $str is ISO-8859-1?
If you RTFM (in your jargon) you would know.
http://ch.php.net/manual/en/function.htmlspecialchars.php (Return value
Section)
i read the
Please change your tone.
Thank you.
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On 06/22/2011 06:52 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.06.2011 15:45, schrieb Lars Schultz:
Am 22.06.2011 15:40, schrieb Reindl Harald:
and why this will not return true if $str is ISO-8859-1?
If you RTFM (in your jargon) you would know.
Am 22.06.2011 15:55, schrieb Olivier Hill:
Please change your tone.
Thank you
the tonhe is quite correct for peopole who think a quick 3 liner will do
the job of UTF8 detection which it does not and there you can read the manual
as often you want
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Am 22.06.2011 15:57, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
There is obviously no way to tell if hello is UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1. It
is technically impossible since the two are identical in that range.
yes and so this will not work
and as long PHP has on million places troubles with UTF8 it would
be hardly
On 06/22/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.06.2011 15:57, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
There is obviously no way to tell if hello is UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1. It
is technically impossible since the two are identical in that range.
yes and so this will not work
and as long PHP has on
Am 22.06.2011 16:06, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
On 06/22/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.06.2011 15:57, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
There is obviously no way to tell if hello is UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1. It
is technically impossible since the two are identical in that range.
yes and so
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:
Am 22.06.2011 16:06, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
On 06/22/2011 07:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 22.06.2011 15:57, schrieb Rasmus Lerdorf:
There is obviously no way to tell if hello is UTF-8 or ISO-8859-1. It
Am 22.06.2011 16:49, schrieb Ferenc Kovacs:
after 10 years i want solutions where it is not the road to hell using any
string function on user-input and since PHP6 seems to be quite dead
it feels there will never be a trustable solution
you made my day.
boy :)
after fetch a
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:
Am 22.06.2011 16:49, schrieb Ferenc Kovacs:
after 10 years i want solutions where it is not the road to hell
using any
string function on user-input and since PHP6 seems to be quite dead
it feels
1. The number of CHARs isn't unrelevant in a general manner.
It depents on the application, even if the trend goes towards UTF8 for
websites.
2. Within 10 years, you could have come to a working solution which could
please us all.
3. Stop flaming and focus on your other day-job instead.
I'd like to resubmit my change proposal on the rebinding of closures.
The proposal is explained here:
https://wiki.php.net/rfc/closures/object-extension#privateprotected_members_scope
I also took the liberty of adding it to the 5.4 todo list page on the wiki.
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it is terrible that one post in HTML, the next ansers on top
and other answering on bottom in the same thread and that the
most do not undertsand reply to the list address is enough
Am 22.06.2011 17:07, schrieb Robert Eisele:
1. The number of CHARs isn't unrelevant in a general manner
On Wed Jun 22 11:25 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
and php as primary web-language is missing UTF8 support in the core
You have a valid point.
Now onto foreach() for strings, any other opinions?
Seems like the discussion is closed and most likely should move to a RFC
with some consideration about
2011.06.22 14:14 Reindl Harald rašė:
Am 22.06.2011 07:24, schrieb Tomas Kuliavas:
2011.06.21 23:27 Reindl Harald rašė:
i do not understand any word and miss a simple str_is_utf8()
Such function uses six lines in PHP.
so why do you not post them?
My lines are not public domain. They are
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